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Offline Grumblebuns

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Chemical Rust Removal
« on: Friday,May 30, 2025, 08:14:11 AM »
In the process of investigating rust removal for my Europas spare seat runners, I came across a YouTube video for a chemical method that looks promising. I was initially going to use the standard EvapoRust but at the current price of $28 per gallon at Harbor Freight I started looking for alternatives when this video showed up on my YouTube feed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVYZmeReKKY

Reading the first 30-35 comments, the consensus is extremely positive from the people who had tried it. So, I’ve ordered a 2 lb bag of citric acid powder and a digital grams scale from Amazon and will try the process myself. The attractiveness of this process is the minimal effect on the base metal, the low cost of the materials and the effective longevity of the solution compared to EvapoRust . I’ll report back on its effectiveness on my seat runners in a couple of weeks, If anyone wants to try the solution here are the ingredients:

The recipe:
 Per 1L of H2O
1: 100 Grams Citric Acid.
2: 40 Grams - Sodium Carbonate /OR/ 63 Grams - Sodium Bicarbonate /OR/ 30 - Grams Sodium Hydroxide.
3: Add ingredients from 1 & 2 to the water.
4: Wait for reaction between Acid and Base to complete.
5: Add final ingredient: Arbitrary amount of liquid dish soap (or other wetting agent / surface tension reducer).



Offline gideon

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Re: Chemical Rust Removal
« Reply #1 on: Friday,May 30, 2025, 10:22:40 AM »
Interesting video.  What do you plan to do after soaking parts in this liquid to prepare for paint?

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Re: Chemical Rust Removal
« Reply #2 on: Friday,May 30, 2025, 01:21:17 PM »
Cleaning vinegar and salt solution works well ….
The more I do the more I find I need to do....remember your ABC’s …anything but chinesium!

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Re: Chemical Rust Removal
« Reply #3 on: Friday,May 30, 2025, 03:01:22 PM »
  I like white vinegar. 2x on vinagar :I-agree:
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Re: Chemical Rust Removal
« Reply #4 on: Friday,May 30, 2025, 06:13:16 PM »
Vinegar will dissolve rust and also a very small amount of good metal.  Products like Evaporust work by chelation which is a different process that doesn't dissolve the non-rusty metal.  If you should ever be unfortunate enough to suffer from heavy metal poisoning, and get treatment for it, then they will treat you with chelation rather than pickling you in acid.  It's more gentle.  You can drop a piece of rusty steel into Evaporust, check on it a week later and there will be barely any loss of non-rusty steel.

The author of the video claims to have found a simple formula using household chemicals that is as effective as Evaporust, but is much cheaper and also the solution remains effective much longer.  That's a pretty bold claim, and if he's right then it's worth knowing about.

Vinegar works, and if that's what you have and you can leave the parts in vinegar for the right amount of time then that's often good enough.  But if there were a better method available that doesn't cost any more, wouldn't you want to know?

By the way, for rust removal by acid I recommend citric acid instead of vinegar.  They both work, but citric acid smells nicer :)   Alternatively, you can remove rust by chelation in a molasses and water solution.  It's cheap, but very slow.



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Re: Chemical Rust Removal
« Reply #5 on: Saturday,May 31, 2025, 06:58:26 AM »
Has anyone tried using Coca-Cola ?

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Re: Chemical Rust Removal
« Reply #6 on: Saturday,May 31, 2025, 07:47:51 AM »
Has anyone tried using Coca-Cola ?
Phosphoric acid, I believe.

I'm a believer, for large items, especially things like gas tanks, etc. of electrolytic derusting using sodium carbonate (washing soda), an iron rod, and a 12v/5A power supply.  Doesn't remove base metal, and leaves the surface ready for refinishing.  YMMV, but I've had good luck with it.
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