Author Topic: Brakes - Pagid pads or four-pot set-up?  (Read 1043 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline HoraceM22

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Joined: Mar 2024
  • Location: Daventry, Northants
  • Posts: 69
Re: Brakes - Pagid pads or four-pot set-up?
« Reply #15 on: Thursday,May 08, 2025, 06:19:41 AM »
So, a new rear disc setup it is then.
Ref the fabrication words in one of above posts, if I was still at RR as a toolmaker and the availability of a whole set of nice lathes, milling m/c's and surface grinders, I might have gone down the mix-and-match route, but with only a pit, two trolley Jack's and a large selection of spanners and sockets I think buying the complete setup is the way to go for me.
Thanks again for your help, advice and support.
H.
HoraceM22

Offline Bainford

  • Twin Cam 3682R
  • Super Member
  • *******
  • Joined: Jul 2012
  • Location: Nova Scotia
  • Posts: 1,750
Re: Brakes - Pagid pads or four-pot set-up?
« Reply #16 on: Thursday,May 08, 2025, 08:30:53 AM »
Bainford, what is wrong with floating calipers? A tendency to jam, or some such?
It's all about braking precision, really. The precise, even, and repeatable application of braking force to each side of a disc, and to each end of the axel is best achieved by opposed pistons squeezing pads from a fixed caliper. A fixed caliper is a (relatively) precise device, that also operates free from environmental factors. Very important in threshold braking and in wet-weather driving.

Floating calipers rarely provide the even brake-force distribution that is desired in performance driving due to binding and flexibility in the slides and mounting arrangement, and their operation is effected by environmental factors such as dirt, moisture, and rust. This can be seen in the uneven pad and disc wear in our daily drivers. Whenever I overhaul the brakes on my DD, I always dress and lubricate the slides and still incur uneven pad and disc wear. Floaters are fine for the OEMs due to having fewer potential leak points reducing maintenance issues, and most importantly, are much cheaper to manufacture.

That is a rough summary, there is much more to be said about it, but it is worth noting that there is no such thing as a proper race car with floating calipers.
The Twin Cam plays the symphony whilst my right foot conducts the orchestra. At 3800 rpm the Mad Pipe Organ joins in.

Trevor

Offline Footer

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Joined: Nov 2019
  • Location: Freeland, Michigan 48623
  • Posts: 187
Re: Brakes - Pagid pads or four-pot set-up?
« Reply #17 on: Thursday,May 08, 2025, 12:38:28 PM »
Very nicely done Benjy, I'm particularly fond of the mirrors and the look of the single windshield wiper. 
I also yearned for a Europa for 40+ years and decided the wait was worth it.  As you state, the driving experience compares to nothing else.

Enjoy!