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Title: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: aboezaard on Sunday,August 20, 2023, 02:47:58 AM
Hi AL,

I am new on this forum and currently restoring a 1973 Europa S2
The car was in bad shape when i bought it. Will be Posting the progress of you are interested.
Living in the netherlands in Leiden. A small city 10kms from the coast.
(http://www.lotuseuropa.org/LotusForum/gallery/2100-200823023519.jpeg)

I Will be posting more pictures soon
Greetings, Arie
Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: TurboFource on Sunday,August 20, 2023, 03:34:45 AM
 :Welcome:
Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: BDA on Sunday,August 20, 2023, 08:05:45 AM
 :Welcome: Aboezaard!!

Just FYI, I don’t think yours is a 1973 or it would be a twin cam. Maybe can share the chassis number. If you no longer have the original frame the chassis number is found written on the doors and inside the body.

Looking forward to following your build!
Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: SwiftDB4 on Sunday,August 20, 2023, 08:20:09 AM
Welcome Arie. Interesting front spoiler.
Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: dakazman on Sunday,August 20, 2023, 08:44:53 AM
 :Welcome:

 aboezaard

    Congratulations
  Post often and with plenty of pics, Its your journey now. You will also like reading it years to come.
 Dakazman
Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: Richard48Y on Sunday,August 20, 2023, 09:07:34 AM
Cropped your pic for easier viewing.
This site does not automatically resize pics.
Glad to see another S2.
Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: S2Zetec54 on Sunday,August 20, 2023, 01:10:16 PM
 :Welcome:

Good luck with project…. Keep us up to date with your progress

Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: aboezaard on Tuesday,August 22, 2023, 12:28:46 PM
:Welcome: Aboezaard!!

Just FYI, I don’t think yours is a 1973 or it would be a twin cam. Maybe can share the chassis number. If you no longer have the original frame the chassis number is found written on the doors and inside the body.

Looking forward to following your build!

Chassisnummer is 7006160231Q
In the registration database it states 1973.
But that could be wrong.
Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: aboezaard on Tuesday,August 22, 2023, 12:30:26 PM
Welcome Arie. Interesting front spoiler.

The (ugly) spoiler will be removed. Keep u posted.
Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: dakazman on Tuesday,August 22, 2023, 03:07:39 PM
   Do you have all the other parts?  Most of ? Some ?
 Are you going for racing or original?  It looks quite original and I like the spoiler.
Dakazman
Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: Bryan Boyle on Tuesday,August 22, 2023, 04:49:50 PM
:Welcome: Aboezaard!!

Just FYI, I don’t think yours is a 1973 or it would be a twin cam. Maybe can share the chassis number. If you no longer have the original frame the chassis number is found written on the doors and inside the body.

Looking forward to following your build!

Chassisnummer is 7006160231Q
In the registration database it states 1973.
But that could be wrong.

Sometimes cars sat around unsold for a long time and when the first registration was issued, the current year was used as the year the car was titled as. Just a thought, I know of a couple titled '1973' S2 Europas floating around.  Don't know what the rules are on your side of the pond...but that may explain (badly) the case.
Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: BDA on Tuesday,August 22, 2023, 06:28:18 PM
Interesting, Bryan. I would have thought that nobody would call an S2 as a 1973 model since the car had changed so much in '72. That was a full year after the TCs started. I understand about titling a car in the year it was purchased. Mine was built in June '73 but it was sold to me as a '74 in 1975. But then there was little difference between a '73 and a '74 or '74 1/2 which had a few add-ons.
Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: Bainford on Thursday,August 24, 2023, 10:46:35 AM
Welcome to the forum, Arie. Interesting project. Please do post the progress on your project. Cheers. :beerchug:
Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: aboezaard on Friday,August 25, 2023, 11:57:38 PM
Sure I will be posting as much as I can.
First a question, the cooling water hardlines are quite rusted from the inside.
Is there a method to de-rust them? Or just by rvs ones?
I took the engine out of the chassis to get to the lines.
(http://www.lotuseuropa.org/LotusForum/gallery/2100-250823235918.jpeg)
(http://www.lotuseuropa.org/LotusForum/gallery/2100-260823000053.jpeg)
Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: aboezaard on Saturday,August 26, 2023, 12:16:47 AM
   Do you have all the other parts?  Most of ? Some ?
 Are you going for racing or original?  It looks quite original and I like the spoiler.
Dakazman

I have all the parts, the car is complete for what I can see. I bought it in boxes, so it is a big puzzle.
The only thing I am missing Is a left hand door quarter glass. This one broke unfortunately in transport. Do you have any idea where to find this?
Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: aboezaard on Saturday,August 26, 2023, 12:34:09 AM
Cropped your pic for easier viewing.
This site does not automatically resize pics.
Glad to see another S2.

Thanks, but you cut my racecar off ;) the E30 I build also from scratch.
Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: SilverBeast on Saturday,August 26, 2023, 12:56:34 AM
I would recommend that you replace cooling pipes with stainless steel. The old won't get any better. I'll be doing mine when/if I have engine out. Don't forget to do heater hard lines at the same time.
 
I have flushed mine, and radiator, for now. A lot of rust flakes had stuck to inside of rubber hoses to. When I squeezed them when they were off they would crunch and drop flakes out of them!
Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: Bainford on Saturday,August 26, 2023, 12:32:25 PM
I agree 100%. Best get rid of the thin, steel originals. There are both stainless and aluminum solutions available, or get a local shop to make up a set. When my engine comes out for any reason, I'll be tackling that job myself.
Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: aboezaard on Wednesday,August 30, 2023, 01:33:49 AM
The shipping and tax cost are huge for new cooling lines so I decided to create them myself.
I asked a local shop to bend some alu tubes, they want a drawing of the lines. Is there a drawing available somewhere of these cooling lines?
Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: Clifton on Wednesday,August 30, 2023, 09:13:02 AM
You can use aluminum straight tube on both if you don't mind drilling a few more holes. I did one aluminum straight and pieced together a stainless one from an MR2 for the bent one. To do again, I would run two straight through.
Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: dakazman on Wednesday,August 30, 2023, 09:36:43 AM


I have all the parts, the car is complete for what I can see. I bought it in boxes, so it is a big puzzle.
The only thing I am missing Is a left hand door quarter glass. This one broke unfortunately in transport. Do you have any idea where to find this?
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Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: Footer on Wednesday,August 30, 2023, 05:45:35 PM
Welcome to the sight and good luck with your Europa.  I too would recommend that you replace the old steel lines with aluminum or stainless.  I made the mistake of not doing that and very shortly after I put the motor back, pressure in the line found the spot where rust had weakened the line and I had coolant all over the motor and road.  Now that you have access it would be a fairly simple job.  Keep looking for replacement pipes, they will show up.  Unfortunately they will be expensive
Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: Richard48Y on Wednesday,August 30, 2023, 09:20:11 PM
Funny this should come up, I've decided to buy dies for my bender and make my own as shipping is just silly now.
I have the old set to copy, not certain they are original as they are three pieces.
UK price was pretty good at £220, but £550 shipping is impossible.  :headbanger:
Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: RobbartK on Saturday,September 09, 2023, 05:25:38 PM
Arie,

Welcome! I am new here as well. The people on this forum are the best. If you check eBay US, there is a quarter glass for sale on there. I purchased some products from that seller (Watches). Neil is a great guy; full of knowledge. Here's the link to the listing:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175432581188?fits=Model%3AEuropa%7CMake%3ALotus&hash=item28d898c044:g:yWEAAOSw0d1jNjgT&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4H2UcBjFNff71sB1w7v%2FHNPqzTanqxRv9dPKCixzRIWq8qqn5ovbX3litNLDLG3KRhMbcGhbv06owpqzO9qs6em6RUEcriAtS3ke7t3XkBas1DNy%2BSiONInk%2FqZLgCAHDz4sZOAyRmW3k04RC3YFzNLdNCw%2FVvWzzH5k8rIggr8V41IXJjaB8o4WlZUWA%2Fh4QTyGFXvOd73Dt61ouOKxA5VVwMaef5%2FKo0hRM4tUroCG5z73uvsEVorWAhWa736YgZTcedyLhSX6twRnPfUlD4mnhvi9Ws%2Bv9LUAzVJWjqmS%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_CZu8fPYg

Robbart and Woodstock
Title: Re: Hello from a new Europa S2 owner
Post by: aboezaard on Sunday,October 08, 2023, 06:47:25 AM
Thanks, I will have a look.