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Title: Setting the dissy on a crossflow.
Post by: dakazman on Monday,August 15, 2022, 12:46:22 PM
      I need to double check this setting because I am assuming the 807 is the same as the 843, that I am setting, should be at 53 degrees. I have it set as per figure 1-45  A.  I'll make a note if this is correct.

 Numerous other manuals show straight with cam gallery on the 697 and 821.

   Dakazman lo l you might need pics .
Title: Re: Setting the dissy on a crossflow.
Post by: dakazman on Monday,August 15, 2022, 04:45:12 PM
  I just have it correct.
Found this under 807 but no mention of 843. When placing the dissy as pictured it ends up at a 53 degree angle .
   I also learned the oil drain plug is different on the two engines 821/843 , different thread size.
 Dakazman
 
Title: Re: Setting the dissy on a crossflow.
Post by: jbcollier on Monday,August 15, 2022, 07:38:06 PM
Yup, 807 directions are correct.  Just gets the distributor is the right spot if you have a vacuum advance or an angled-outlet distributor cap.

Different oil pans may have different drain plugs.  You need to match the oil pan to the oil pump so the oil pick is properly located.
Title: Re: Setting the dissy on a crossflow.
Post by: dakazman on Tuesday,August 16, 2022, 03:53:33 PM
   It goes to show you , ask questions . I almost installed a 821 oil pan on a 843 cross flow . The 821 is deeper. I had not even noticed the differences in the two . The oil pump pickup is the same for both. I have a bag of 2 and they are the same.
  The oil drain plugs are different and in different locations.
     THANK YOU . My first cross flow build is progressing pass a mock up. ( see 0453)
Dakazman
 
Title: Re: Setting the dissy on a crossflow.
Post by: jbcollier on Tuesday,August 16, 2022, 08:07:17 PM
I have seen different pick-ups.  No pics though.
Title: Re: Setting the dissy on a crossflow.
Post by: dakazman on Wednesday,August 17, 2022, 05:30:20 AM
  I’ll get some pics up today, I’m turning the block over to get the head alignment pins out . I unscrewed them but my magnet won’t lift them out . Why fight gravity. The center of the pins are threaded maybe I can get a thread caught and pull it out .
Dave
Title: Re: Setting the dissy on a crossflow.
Post by: jbcollier on Wednesday,August 17, 2022, 05:49:05 AM
What you refer to as alignment pins are just guide pins to keep head movement to a minimum as you install the head.  The head is aligned by a permanent hollow dowel at one end and a tapered pin temporarily pushed through at the other.  That's what you did, right?
Title: Re: Setting the dissy on a crossflow.
Post by: dakazman on Wednesday,August 17, 2022, 10:52:16 AM
  JB , I
placed them where book showed . See pics , one comes out through the bottom. I took pcs of the entire process.
   Also pics of the oil pump pickups, boy was I wrong, maybe I should have placed them next to each other sooner.  The 821 have the deeper pans , I have two 821 and 1 843 . Luckily I didn’t get them mixed up.
Dakazman

 
Title: Re: Setting the dissy on a crossflow.
Post by: dakazman on Wednesday,August 17, 2022, 01:20:44 PM
  I got the pins out 😅 an old sink stopper rod had done fine threads on it so I kept pressure on the threads inside pins and pulled them up lickiky split .  Next time I’ll have a proper extraction rod . I vaguely remember going through this with the 821 head . Now I can torque it down.