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Re: Engine Stop running after about 3 minutes
« Reply #60 on: Tuesday,August 31, 2021, 09:51:45 AM »
You have to get the needles from a Lotus specialist, or directly from Burlen in the UK.  RD Enterprises has them.  Numbers in an earlier post to this thread.  Get the UK?Euro spec needles.

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Re: Engine Stop running after about 3 minutes
« Reply #61 on: Tuesday,August 31, 2021, 10:50:19 PM »
Thanks.. ordered from Rd enterprise today.

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Re: Engine Stop running after about 3 minutes
« Reply #62 on: Tuesday,August 31, 2021, 11:45:55 PM »
Your video to me indicates to me he ignition cuts out.
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Re: Engine Stop running after about 3 minutes
« Reply #63 on: Wednesday,September 01, 2021, 05:03:35 AM »
If an engine is not running, it is very easy to diagnose the problem.  Either there is spark/fuel or there's not.  One is missing.  Crank it and see.

I start with removing the coil wire from the distributor.  Hold it a 1/4" from the engine and crank.  Fat spark?  Put the wire back in place and remove a lead from a spark plug.  Same again.  No spark?  Bad cap or rotor.

Same with fuel.  Pull the line from the carb and point it into a plastic bottle.  Crank to check that fuel is pumping, and in sufficient quantities.

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Re: Engine Stop running after about 3 minutes
« Reply #64 on: Saturday,September 04, 2021, 12:52:38 PM »
Thanks.. The parts arrived. I am working on the rebuild of the stromberg carbs. Should be done by tomorrow.

Also, I still have the Lucas distributor with old ignition wires along with the XR700 electronic ignition system,

Should I replace the Lucas distributor with the Petronix distributor for twincam kit from RD enterprise to eliminate most issues? The car sat quite some time and I want a fresh start.

Not cheap though: reference from Rd enterprise

“Pertronix Distributor for TwinCam
This brand new distributor has the Ignitor II electronic ignition with adaptive dwell control for optimum spark.  The side-entry distributor cap attaches with clips (not screws) for easier installation and maintenance.  All mechanical advance with optimized advance curve for performance and drivability.  The distributor comes complete with gear and clamping plate (clamping plate is not shown in these photos). 
The Ignitor II ignition requires a low resistance coil (.6 ohm) Do not use your 3.0 ohm coil.

Ref. 26M0009-PER  Distributor  $295.00
Ref. IGN-45111  45,000 volt coil (epoxy filled)
Ref. IGN-10001  Coil Bracket
Ref. 26E0740-43BL  Ignition Wire Set  $30.00”
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Re: Engine Stop running after about 3 minutes
« Reply #65 on: Saturday,September 04, 2021, 02:13:37 PM »
Before you get it from r.d., you might want to call Pertronix and see if it makes sense to order it from them. I wasn't able to find the distributor for Loti but I know they make it and if you sign up for their newsletter, you can get 10% off your initial order. Give them a call and see what they can do about the discount and the price.

PerTronix (909) 599-5955

Also if you need it, their tech support (via phone call) is very good!

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Re: Engine Stop running after about 3 minutes
« Reply #66 on: Saturday,September 04, 2021, 02:29:21 PM »
Thanks., I’ll call them.

Do you know about this configuration with the Mallory distributor?

http://www.lotus-europa.com/manuals/misc/electrical/Mallory_Install_Part_1.htm


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Re: Engine Stop running after about 3 minutes
« Reply #67 on: Saturday,September 04, 2021, 02:34:24 PM »
Nope. I guess there are several options. I had a problem with my optical ignition (but it was a very old system). I use Pertronix Ignitor II now.

When you call Pertronix, you might want to check if you can statically time their distributor.

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Re: Engine Stop running after about 3 minutes
« Reply #68 on: Saturday,September 04, 2021, 07:00:15 PM »
Yes.. I’ll ask them

Meanwhile, Does anyone have a Twin Cam with a stromberg 175 cd 2 using a petroninx distributed setup? What are the specifications of the system do you have?
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Re: Engine Stop running after about 3 minutes
« Reply #69 on: Thursday,September 09, 2021, 07:58:53 PM »
Ok!! I finally finished cleaning/ rebuilding the carbs. I does run better. Did not stop this time.. I kept the same coil/distributor and electric ignition system.

The exhaust is rusted so I could no more handle the smoke emissions. I ordered Rd enterprise exhaust kit an it arrived.

Problem that I’m facing is to replace the original exhaust manifold and install the new exhaust.. there is not that that much space

What is the best way?

Thanks
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Re: Engine Stop running after about 3 minutes
« Reply #70 on: Thursday,September 09, 2021, 10:20:02 PM »
Glad to hear that you've got it running properly, that's a good result.

Whenever I have done work on the exhaust I usually remove the luggage tray and prop the rear deck up another way - broom handles seem to work  :)

With the tray out of the way I stand inside the engine bay over the gearbox, you have great access to the pipework/silencer and it's even easier to get to the manifold joint. I start from the back (silencer box) and take the whole lot off, it's easier to re-seal than struggling with sections. If you are retaining the original Cast Iron manifold then I'd consider using a nut-splitter on the joint to the downpipe if that's very rusty, extracting & replacing a stud in that position is going to be a fiddly job.

If you are removing the old Cast Iron manifold & replacing with a 4-2-1 tubular system then I'd get some spare studs on hand. Soak the originals with release fluid overnight but even so there's a chance you'll damage or break a stud if you've got steel nuts rusted in place.

Alongside some spare studs I'd also buy some extended brass manifold nuts because they'll protect the ends of the studs which are otherwise exposed to air & rust. My memory is hazy but I think it was Alex on here who originally posted about these and I think they were for the old BL (60's-70's) Mini engine.  I bought a set from Ebay.

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Re: Engine Stop running after about 3 minutes
« Reply #71 on: Thursday,September 09, 2021, 10:42:02 PM »
The best way to remove old exhaust manifold nuts is to use heat.  Heat the nut to a light red glow on one side before trying to turn it.  If it stiffens up, heat it again.

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Re: Engine Stop running after about 3 minutes
« Reply #72 on: Friday,September 10, 2021, 12:34:01 AM »
I use brass nuts and brass washers on the 8 manifold studs, with extended brass nuts for the two difficult to access ones, I think they are 3 and 4, or 4 and 5 from the front. 

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Re: Engine Stop running after about 3 minutes
« Reply #73 on: Friday,September 10, 2021, 01:29:53 PM »
Thanks for the response.

I added pictures of the Stromberg rebuild Kit I ordered.(picture 2 & 3)

Also, you will see from the first picture the engine bay. looks like I have to remove the AC compressor and all hoses to remove the manifold.




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