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Title: Hemmings TC is a steal
Post by: Lou Drozdowski on Monday,January 09, 2023, 09:30:42 AM
The price seems too good to be true...

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/listing/1972-lotus-europa-sarasota-fl-2651068
Title: Re: Hemmings TC is a steal
Post by: BDA on Monday,January 09, 2023, 10:03:24 AM
It does look like a great project with a lot of good parts (spares?).
Title: Re: Hemmings TC is a steal
Post by: Lou Drozdowski on Monday,January 09, 2023, 12:59:33 PM
For that kind of money the extra parts and F/B block & crank may be worth close to the total asking price alone. The few odd and ends, glass and windshield seem to be some of the major hurdles to finish.

I would put the paint on hold, get it running and address the assembly first. Then, after it's sorted put a vinyl wrap to make it more presentable.

If I had the space....5k is a bargain.
Title: Re: Hemmings TC is a steal
Post by: Chuck Nukem on Monday,January 09, 2023, 05:51:31 PM
It's long gone...don't ask me how I know....
Title: Re: Hemmings TC is a steal
Post by: TurboFource on Monday,January 09, 2023, 06:21:31 PM
Did you add to your collection Chuck?
Title: Re: Hemmings TC is a steal
Post by: Chuck Nukem on Tuesday,January 10, 2023, 06:27:39 AM
I tried to  :FUNNY:
Title: Re: Hemmings TC is a steal
Post by: SilverBeast on Tuesday,January 10, 2023, 09:52:26 AM
Strangely enough I thought of Chuck when I saw the price, and that all the spares.
Title: Re: Hemmings TC is a steal
Post by: Chuck Nukem on Tuesday,January 10, 2023, 11:41:07 AM
Strangely enough I thought of Chuck when I saw the price, and that all the spares.

I was thinking to myself "I don't have a green one yet" and then I remembered that I do.... Its better that it went to someone else :)
Title: Re: Hemmings TC is a steal
Post by: BDA on Tuesday,January 10, 2023, 11:52:41 AM
Chuck, if you can't remember what color Europas you have, you probably have enough!  :FUNNY:
Title: Re: Hemmings TC is a steal
Post by: SilverBeast on Tuesday,January 10, 2023, 12:53:06 PM
Chuck, if you can't remember what color Europas you have, you probably have enough!  :FUNNY:

Surely he has more than seven Lotus now. He can make a rainbow ;D
Title: Re: Hemmings TC is a steal
Post by: Chuck Nukem on Tuesday,January 10, 2023, 01:09:56 PM
Chuck, if you can't remember what color Europas you have, you probably have enough!  :FUNNY:

Surely he has more than seven Lotus now. He can make a rainbow ;D

I'm up to 11... I recently found a deal I couldn't pass up on another Eclat and Elite...

I am a Mk14 Elite, 7, and +2 away from having every Chapman era car.... the stuff dreams are made of :)
Title: Re: Hemmings TC is a steal
Post by: Kendo on Tuesday,January 10, 2023, 01:21:53 PM
Maybe you could find the lost Mk 6 in a very remote barn somewhere  ;D
Title: Re: Hemmings TC is a steal
Post by: BDA on Tuesday,January 10, 2023, 01:25:56 PM
Very cool, Chuck! The Elite is going to be the tough one, I think. Then with your penchant for making your own parts, it might be some time before you drive them!  :FUNNY:

Out of curiosity, would you accept a Caterham in place of a Lotus 7?
Title: Re: Hemmings TC is a steal
Post by: Chuck Nukem on Tuesday,January 10, 2023, 08:17:09 PM
Very cool, Chuck! The Elite is going to be the tough one, I think. Then with your penchant for making your own parts, it might be some time before you drive them!  :FUNNY:

Out of curiosity, would you accept a Caterham in place of a Lotus 7?

Sure! It's close enough :) It would be best if it was in 1000 pieces and needing total restoration.

Speaking of making parts I am getting closer on my rear brake brackets. I redesigned the TCS brackets to work for S1/S2. I should have my order of 9 windshields in with the rest of the S2 parts at the end of the month. Then I will be able to get it on the road so I can test it out. Slow going over here but it is getting there! I can't wait to get the foundry going to do some casting!!
Title: Re: Hemmings TC is a steal
Post by: Richard48Y on Tuesday,January 10, 2023, 10:23:30 PM
Are those the calipers Serge recommended?
When I contacted Wilwood they would not sell them directly.
Summit Racing never got back to me.
So I am trying to fit VW Scirocco calipers.
Not a Turbo car so probably sufficient.
Title: Re: Hemmings TC is a steal
Post by: gideon on Wednesday,January 11, 2023, 03:21:06 AM
I spoke to a Wilwood sales rep about those calipers.  He said they sell some for Mazda MX5s, but the handbrake mechanism is weak and it's really just a way to meet regs that require a handbrake.  He recommended a separate handbrake caliper (MC4), but it seems that would require a thicker, ventilated, disc and it would be challenging (or impossible) to fit it all in.  I'd be interested to hear if anybody has experience using them for the handbrake on a Europa.
Title: Re: Hemmings TC is a steal
Post by: Chuck Nukem on Wednesday,January 11, 2023, 06:23:43 AM
Are those the calipers Serge recommended?
When I contacted Wilwood they would not sell them directly.
Summit Racing never got back to me.
So I am trying to fit VW Scirocco calipers.
Not a Turbo car so probably sufficient.

Yes funny enough we discovered them independently. I found out they exist for flyinmiata and was able to track down a pair. The problem with them is that if you want to use the parking brake the outboard arm will not fit in a standard wheel. I am working on making a new arm which uses a ball instead of an eyelet so that the arm can be lower profile. It will reduce the effective lever arm a little bit. For me this is most straightforward way to make this particular caliper work. The TCS alloy is actually more problematic than the steel wheel in terms of its offset. I had to make my TCS hat about .500" thicker than the drum face so that it will clear the caliper body. Longer studs will be required for it. The S2 hat is around .250" more than standard. I leave my car in gear when I park it so I am not actually that bothered about its ultimate strength of clamp...but Texas is pretty flat. We will see once it gets done! Eventually!! :)

I spoke to a Wilwood sales rep about those calipers.  He said they sell some for Mazda MX5s, but the handbrake mechanism is weak and it's really just a way to meet regs that require a handbrake.  He recommended a separate handbrake caliper (MC4), but it seems that would require a thicker, ventilated, disc and it would be challenging (or impossible) to fit it all in.  I'd be interested to hear if anybody has experience using them for the handbrake on a Europa.


If the wilwood parking brake mechanism ends up being crap I might look at modifying the bracket to take a motorcycle caliper or something that would work on the thinner rotor I am using. My rotor is a standard front that I modify for this purpose.