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Offline BDA

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Re: Latest news about Banks Station Garage
« Reply #15 on: Thursday,June 20, 2019, 12:06:36 PM »
And so it is (after looking it up in my notes)! Interesting that his "real" number doesn't seem to show up on his website! Hmmmm....

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Re: Latest news about Banks Station Garage
« Reply #16 on: Thursday,June 20, 2019, 12:33:18 PM »
Alex, one company was called "Lotus Supplies Ltd", the other is called "Lotus Supplies Limited".  They don't have exactly the same name.

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Re: Latest news about Banks Station Garage
« Reply #17 on: Thursday,June 20, 2019, 12:49:21 PM »
Alex, one company was called "Lotus Supplies Ltd", the other is called "Lotus Supplies Limited".  They don't have exactly the same name.

You have a good point, but there still does not appear to be a web site however you spell limited.

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Re: Latest news about Banks Station Garage
« Reply #18 on: Thursday,June 20, 2019, 09:56:36 PM »
Alex, one company was called "Lotus Supplies Ltd", the other is called "Lotus Supplies Limited".  They don't have exactly the same name.
You have a good point, but there still does not appear to be a web site however you spell limited.

It is a strange one, I did the same as Alex and found the dissolved company first which also made me wonder at what was going on. Given that most folks abbreviate "Limited" to "Ltd", I wouldn't have picked that name myself in case there's any debt or ill-will associated with the previous company.  But then again, I've never been in the game of setting up companies, selecting names, etc, so I don't really know what's what.

It wouldn't surprise me if for the immediate future they rely on Richard's website and if I were them, I'd make a positive contribution to keeping the partnership.  If you own a 60s/70s Europa then the chances are that you'll know of Richard, or at least his website and the main advantage is that it's already established, bookmarked and most importantly, working ! 

A joint development could easily get online purchases and email enquiries for parts going directly to themselves rather than Richard as we all know he's more a phone than email person.  Technical, new-build and restoration business would still go to Richard as normal. he'd most likely still fabricate those specials he does now and just lose the problem of packing up and sending out parts.

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Re: Latest news about Banks Station Garage
« Reply #19 on: Friday,June 21, 2019, 09:18:56 AM »
Brian,
I agree with you about the website.  My guess is they will be the parts fulfillment and Richard the manufacturer of his specialized products.  It will be good to see a classic Lotus supplier up there website game for us younger generation owners.  I am perfectly happy to buy products from a good web store just not many of the Lotus sites seem to work that well today. 
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Re: Latest news about Banks Station Garage
« Reply #20 on: Friday,June 21, 2019, 09:49:18 AM »
 :I-agree: Due to poor websites there are only 2 suppliers of the 4-6 around that I can use to order parts from. No I can't afford long distance charges and not being able to see the parts.

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Re: Latest news about Banks Station Garage
« Reply #21 on: Friday,June 21, 2019, 10:09:35 PM »
Drifting slightly off topic, I think the main reason that supplier's websites are "sooooo last year" is because the majority of the guys are long term suppliers from way before this interwebby thing.   Richard was around in the late 70s/early 80s when the sum total of advertising was a page in the "Club Lotus" magazine and possibly the Lotus Drivers Club if/when that came out. Both mags are now quite professional and both clubs also have an online presence so you'll probably hit 80%+ of UK Lotus enthusiasts that way, more than you'd do from a google search for your own website.

I'm not trying to do these guys down when I say I doubt they'll see a lot of profit in creating or maintaining a website in the manner of say, Amazon. I'm willing to bet they have to pay someone else to do the details for them, they will probably have to take photographs and write technical descriptions for someone else to update with prices and sort out the purchase model.

So it's a direct tax on their profits. Will they make enough extra to cover the costs ? Doubtful in the case of our cars because it's a very limited market and very few cars are driven 10k/year and actually wear out like they used to do ! 

Compare with a modern lotus elise and they are well served, Eliseparts ( https://www.eliseparts.com/ ) have a nifty website, slick and very easy to buy from, and that's because it's a bigger and more modern market. Gary started up with the S1 Elise and has grown along with Elise forums where the website is expected and probably 95% of his business model.

Closing on a positive note, SJS Lotus do quite well these days and I've noticed that Kelvedon (under new ownership) are making progress even if their website isn't as slick as the other contenders. For TC engine parts, Burton & QED are pretty good in both description and sending stuff out.

So the compromise is a website that just announces their presence, what they do and what they sell.

Brian
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Re: Latest news about Banks Station Garage
« Reply #22 on: Saturday,June 22, 2019, 05:59:19 AM »
I think you're right, Brian. On the other end of the spectrum is Dave Bean. Their website hasn't been updated since it first went online probably twenty years ago. There are few parts listed on it and no way to buy off the site at all. It's really worse than that because it's not simple to find their phone number on the site! After Dave died, I asked Ken over there if there was a thought about updating the site and he said it was highly unlikely anytime soon. It's a shame because they sell a lot of interesting stuff but it looks like the only way to find out what they have is to get their paper catalog. Their catalog is worth buying (I think they might be free) because they contain a lot of good information in them. But then one wonders what new parts they sell now and what things in the catalog have been discontinued. I can only guess that they figure their ads in the Lotus Ltd. magazine and probably a few other places give them enough exposure.

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Re: Latest news about Banks Station Garage
« Reply #23 on: Saturday,June 22, 2019, 06:01:25 AM »
 I totally agree with your post Brian. My comment was in the hope that the new owners of the Banks parts inventory will continue the site as it is. Lately I found that the ordering part from the site was not working. An email to Richard was needed to get parts. As I am 14 years older than my Europa, I am not very tec Savvy. When it comes to Computers my daughter calls me a pebkac (problem exists between keyboard and chair).

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Re: Latest news about Banks Station Garage
« Reply #24 on: Saturday,June 22, 2019, 09:08:29 AM »
my daughter calls me a pebkac (problem exists between keyboard and chair).

 :FUNNY: 

now that did make me chuckle, I'd not heard pebkac before and I'm going to store it for future use !

I think we're all agreed it's an age thing coupled with the small potential market. SJS get away with it because they do the whole Lotus range so can afford the investment. I'd love to see Richard's site developed as a "one-stop-shop" for both parts/restoration services and if these new guys are similar to the ones who've taken over Kelvedon it could well happen.

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Re: Latest news about Banks Station Garage
« Reply #25 on: Saturday,June 22, 2019, 01:01:21 PM »
Hello everyone. Yes the news is correct we have taken over the sales of banks europa, but are working very closely with richard. He is still manufacturing parts.

For the time being we are using the original website, but are in the process of building a more modern one, which will indeed have a picture for every part as it is something that everyone seems to want 👍.

Also keep an eye on our facebook page https://m.facebook.com/lotussuppliesltd as this will show any new products that richard has developed and not got round to selling.
The new parts store is based in warwick the solihull address is just our registered office

 We hope we can be of some use to you all in the future
 Nick & Dave
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Re: Latest news about Banks Station Garage
« Reply #26 on: Saturday,June 22, 2019, 01:21:18 PM »
 :Welcome:

Nick & Dave,
Lotus supplies.
  That’s great news and we wish you all the success in the world.
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Re: Latest news about Banks Station Garage
« Reply #27 on: Saturday,June 22, 2019, 03:02:10 PM »
Greetings Nick and Dave;
Best of luck in your new venture! What is your policy regarding shipping parts to the USA?
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Re: Latest news about Banks Station Garage
« Reply #28 on: Saturday,June 22, 2019, 05:29:20 PM »
 :Welcome: Nick & Dave!

I'm looking forward to seeing how you build on what Richard started! I have a lot of Richard's kits - twin link rear suspension, rear discs, front vented discs, adjustable front upper A-arms, door hinges, NG3, and probably a few other odds and ends so I'm very familiar with Richard's furtile mind. There are still a few things I might be in the market for down the road so I'm glad his products will be available in the future.

Can you share what you know about Richard's plans now that he's offloaded the parts business to you? You imply he may have some new products. Is he still building cars for customers?

edit: Richard's mind is really more furtile than furtive.

Anyway, best of luck with your new venture!
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Re: Latest news about Banks Station Garage
« Reply #29 on: Saturday,June 22, 2019, 10:38:23 PM »
Yet another  :Welcome:  for Nick & Dave, it's great to see one of our suppliers joining in with the community and I wish you well for your future business.  Having a presence and easy contact works well for Eliseparts and a few of the other Elise suppliers so I hope you get the same response/success with your new venture.

I'm sure you are aware that Richard has an enviable reputation in the Europa world and quite a few of us here have parts which he's either made or had made for our cars. It's great to hear that the source of supply will be around for a while yet.

As you say, photographs are always a welcome addition to a "Parts List" because with the slight variations on Lotus of this era it's always reassuring to what you're buying is the same as the rusty part in your hand.   

It's a lot of work to build a website from scratch so you definitely get street cred awards for doing so.  I'm sure if you want feedback on progress/style/ease of use then you've got a ready-made set of beta testers on here !

Brian