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Title: V-8 Europa
Post by: TurboFource on Tuesday,January 12, 2021, 02:09:55 PM
https://www.v8forum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12543

Wonder if he ever finished it and how it looked....
Title: Re: V-8 Europa
Post by: Sander_Sorok_40 on Friday,January 15, 2021, 05:54:29 PM
I know that there is one out there. Look up V8 Europa on YouTube.
Title: Re: V-8 Europa
Post by: BDA on Friday,January 15, 2021, 05:55:32 PM
Our own Clifton has a V8 Europa.
Title: Re: V-8 Europa
Post by: Dilkris on Friday,January 15, 2021, 11:41:49 PM
I thought just rebuilding a TCS, (or S1, S2 or TC), was pretty ambitious for your average guy at home - but those pictures just takes it to another level. 
Title: Re: V-8 Europa
Post by: JR73 on Saturday,January 16, 2021, 12:47:40 AM
Probably the most famous V8 one (and likely the first) is GKN 47D - Google should take you to everything about it.

http://www.colinchapmanmuseum.co.uk/?page_id=3225

*edited to add the above link, scroll down the page a bit.
Title: Re: V-8 Europa
Post by: MRN I J on Saturday,January 16, 2021, 05:26:14 AM
The rear overriders are 60s kiche, horrible things, ruin the good rear lines of the Europa
Title: Re: V-8 Europa
Post by: GavinT on Saturday,January 16, 2021, 06:35:08 AM
Many years ago there was a guy on the Yahoo Group who was contemplating a Rover V8 along the lines of the GKN 47D.

He was looking to bolt Lotus 907 heads to it.
Apparently, the Vauxhall 2 litre engine is essentially half a Rover V8 and as such, shared bore spacing etc. Given the Lotus 907 head was originally developed on a Vauxhall block, it sounded plausible.

Also interesting to note is the Lotus 907 head is symmetrical as pertains to the head bolts. The 907 cam trays are also symmetrical which, if all this is true, would mean one could arrange two 907 heads and four 907 cam trays on a Rover V8 block and have the ports and pulleys in the right places by default.
Of course, there'd be some engineering needed for the cam drives etc. but a lightish 32 valve V8 might be pretty cool.
Title: Re: V-8 Europa
Post by: Richard48Y on Saturday,January 16, 2021, 10:12:40 AM
I know of several 215/907 conversions that have been started.
Some are much further along than others but I do not know of ANY that have actually run.
One issue is that the engine gets much wider with the TC heads, so what does it still fit into?
Title: Re: V-8 Europa
Post by: MRN I J on Saturday,January 16, 2021, 11:24:05 AM
Many years ago there was a guy on the Yahoo Group who was contemplating a Rover V8 along the lines of the GKN 47D.

He was looking to bolt Lotus 907 heads to it.
Apparently, the Vauxhall 2 litre engine is essentially half a Rover V8 and as such, shared bore spacing etc. Given the Lotus 907 head was originally developed on a Vauxhall block, it sounded plausible.
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By that you mean the Rover V8 is Buick is GM, Vauxhall is GM
Title: Re: V-8 Europa
Post by: buzzer on Monday,January 18, 2021, 12:05:16 AM
I knew GKN47D in the mid 70’s when I worked as a student engineer and working in the R&D department of Vandervell’s. It was then pretty well a race car and had been modified significantly. The engine was fitted with 4 down draft 48 Weber’s race cams and 4.4 litres. It had race tyres on for the road. The guys who looked after it and did some development work were mostly x vanwall mechanics. It used to be MOT then put away. To start it they had to take the engine cover off as it would blow back significantly until it warmed up. A couple of other stories  on it. It was said that Colin Chapman would not fit GKN nuts and bolts and these were changed by Vandervells.  Also the story of the little fins on the front quarters. They used to test drive it up the short section of the M40 towards Oxford and at 120mph the front would go very light one of the mechanics told me that he was driving it with a passenger moved the wheel and the car carried on straight. A bit hairy. The interior was  beautiful never got out in it but sat in it a few times.
Title: Re: V-8 Europa
Post by: JR73 on Monday,January 18, 2021, 04:13:43 PM
I knew GKN47D in the mid 70’s when I worked as a student engineer and working in the R&D department of Vandervell’s. It was then pretty well a race car and had been modified significantly. The engine was fitted with 4 down draft 48 Weber’s race cams and 4.4 litres. It had race tyres on for the road. The guys who looked after it and did some development work were mostly x vanwall mechanics. It used to be MOT then put away. To start it they had to take the engine cover off as it would blow back significantly until it warmed up. A couple of other stories  on it. It was said that Colin Chapman would not fit GKN nuts and bolts and these were changed by Vandervells.  Also the story of the little fins on the front quarters. They used to test drive it up the short section of the M40 towards Oxford and at 120mph the front would go very light one of the mechanics told me that he was driving it with a passenger moved the wheel and the car carried on straight. A bit hairy. The interior was  beautiful never got out in it but sat in it a few times.

😎 There must have been plenty of interesting stories from those guys?