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Title: TC Seat belts
Post by: Roger on Saturday,July 11, 2020, 09:07:02 AM
 My car has static belts, but they are a bit grubby and I'd like to fit retractable belts instead, as it would have had originally.
Any idea where I can get some? Generic 3-point belts assume a floor-mounted reel with an over-the-shoulder belt run. I have wondered about trying to remove the intermediate guide and then mounting the reel as in the original installation, but have no idea whether that would work, or what I might have to do to make it work.
So what does work, please?
Title: Re: TC Seat belts
Post by: Pfreen on Saturday,July 11, 2020, 10:01:28 AM
My original seat belts were trashed.  I installed Securon 514/15.  They installed fine.  My only complaint is the release button is on the end of the buckle instead of the side.  It makes it a little difficult to release.  I tried the longer set (254)with the 32 cm web latch.  It worked, but it was too long and did not look great.  The attached photos show the installation.  It attached in the same location as the original.
Rimmer caries them.  Also, you can try Minisport.
Title: Re: TC Seat belts
Post by: Roger on Saturday,July 11, 2020, 10:24:40 AM
Thanks, I will try them Securon's prices are silly.
Title: Re: TC Seat belts
Post by: Roger on Saturday,July 11, 2020, 03:27:56 PM
Thanks again, ordered from Rimmer.
Title: Re: TC Seat belts
Post by: 4129R on Sunday,July 12, 2020, 01:20:05 AM
Be careful, the Europa inertia seat belts are mounted at an angle, so normal inertia will not work in that position. 
Title: Re: TC Seat belts
Post by: Pfreen on Sunday,July 12, 2020, 08:30:33 AM
The angle of locking on the Securon units is adjustable, so that is not a problem.  They are infinitely adjustable.
Title: Re: TC Seat belts
Post by: chrisbeck on Monday,December 07, 2020, 03:25:16 AM
My original seat belts were trashed.  I installed Securon 514/15.  They installed fine.  My only complaint is the release button is on the end of the buckle instead of the side.  It makes it a little difficult to release.  I tried the longer set (254)with the 32 cm web latch.  It worked, but it was too long and did not look great.  The attached photos show the installation.  It attached in the same location as the original.
Rimmer caries them.  Also, you can try Minisport.
Have you fitted both bolts to the reels? I've been told these Securon units are too big to fit behind the seats because of the setting unit, did the other side fit okay?
Title: Re: TC Seat belts
Post by: Pfreen on Monday,December 07, 2020, 05:55:19 AM
Photos of the Securon belts are attached.  I used the original seat belt attachment location.  The plastic Lotus seat belt reel cover does not fit however.
Title: Re: TC Seat belts
Post by: Lotsof 3146 R on Monday,December 07, 2020, 06:43:40 AM
Just remember to replace the seat beat anchor in the sill. On a relatively rust free car I could remove the old mounts with a vacuum cleaner. Photo shows what was left of the old bracket - on top of the new stainless steel.
Oh and don't forget to order the red belts :-)
Title: Re: TC Seat belts
Post by: lotusfanatic on Monday,December 07, 2020, 09:49:45 PM
Just remember to replace the seat beat anchor in the sill. On a relatively rust free car I could remove the old mounts with a vacuum cleaner. Photo shows what was left of the old bracket - on top of the new stainless steel.
Oh and don't forget to order the red belts :-)

Hi Lotsof,
your replacement seat belt anchor points look somewhat more substantial than the original examples!  :huh:

Mark
Title: Re: TC Seat belts
Post by: Nisswa Collision on Tuesday,December 08, 2020, 08:37:55 AM
My car has VW belts installed. They look almost identical to those. I noticed that the VW belts were very sensitive to the mounting angle affecting the motion lock. If at a 45, the locks didn't work but if straightened up a bit they work fine. Only one bolt in the original location.
Title: Re: TC Seat belts
Post by: Roger on Tuesday,December 08, 2020, 09:28:35 AM
BTW,  I installed black Securon belts.
Title: Re: TC Seat belts
Post by: Pfreen on Tuesday,December 08, 2020, 10:29:19 AM
How do you like them Roger?
Title: Re: TC Seat belts
Post by: Roger on Wednesday,December 09, 2020, 05:44:00 AM
How do you like them Roger?
Not easy to set them up to get the internal pendulum right, but fine in use.  When I say not easy,  I mean lots of fiddly adjustment and retry, almost as if there wasn't much tolerance.