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Re: Experieces in Racing an Europa
« Reply #120 on: Thursday,April 17, 2014, 02:14:28 AM »
 :beerchug:

Ok Folks!!
here we are.
I got the a Partial entry list and....

                                 :pirate:   O N E     PHOTO!   :pirate:

this is one the car entered at St Ursanne-Le Rangiers 1971.รน
I think we can read the number 251 on the car door, so it's Mr. Oscar Bubeck.
We must say a BIG Thank You to Monsieur Thais of Forum Auto.

http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto/histoire-du-sport-auto/sujet379017-30170.htm


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Re: Experieces in Racing an Europa
« Reply #121 on: Thursday,April 17, 2014, 03:39:08 AM »
Are those flares and a little front spoiler?  :huh:

@Serge: As you propably speak French very well, you could join this forum. They seem to have a huge archive and knowledge base.

EDIT: Just saw that Valerio has already joined.

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Re: Experieces in Racing an Europa
« Reply #122 on: Thursday,April 17, 2014, 03:49:43 AM »
Looks like the standard flares, but I see wide wheels!

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Stefan, my French isn't as good as you would expect. I can certainly manage, but it isn't my native language. I'm actually from the Flemish part of Belgium, so I speak Dutch, but I have been taught French in school.

I know this forum exists and I follow the Europa-thread from time to time. There are certainly interesting things on there.
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Re: Experieces in Racing an Europa
« Reply #123 on: Thursday,April 17, 2014, 03:58:53 AM »
It has the fuel cap exposed on the flank like mine.
But it really looks like having a front spoiler ...

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Re: Experieces in Racing an Europa
« Reply #124 on: Thursday,April 17, 2014, 04:18:15 AM »
Could it be the same car as this one? Propably it isn't, but could somebody from the FIA believe it?  :confused:

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Re: Experieces in Racing an Europa
« Reply #125 on: Thursday,April 17, 2014, 04:53:39 AM »
Looks like the standard flares, but I see wide wheels!
My French isn't as good as you would expect. I can certainly manage, but it isn't my native language. I'm actually from the Flemish part of Belgium, so I speak Dutch, but I have been taught French in school.

I would say that wheels are wider than 6inch written into the tech spec of the official Swiss Hemi Version.

I am wearing 6inch front and 7inch rear.

 :WTF: Serge! I bet your french is much better than mine, look how bad is my English and i don't care of it...

mecky we could cut that photo and use that part to show the Engine...
But I still want to get in contact with Mr. Tresch, I guess he also have a photo of his engine bay.
The garage is closed for the Easter Holydays, in Swiss as here in Sweden we like to take long vacations  ;D   

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Re: Experieces in Racing an Europa
« Reply #126 on: Monday,April 21, 2014, 08:50:51 AM »
here a photo of Oscar Bubeck on 1973... Period H1

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Re: Experieces in Racing an Europa
« Reply #127 on: Monday,April 21, 2014, 09:08:05 AM »
Let's hope his car didn't evolve to much in 2 years because that would give us some options!

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Re: Experieces in Racing an Europa
« Reply #128 on: Tuesday,April 22, 2014, 10:22:15 AM »
I contacted a few swiss people, but I did not learn anything new, yet. But I am still waiting for some answers.

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Re: Experieces in Racing an Europa
« Reply #129 on: Wednesday,April 23, 2014, 02:49:11 AM »
that's awesome!!

Thanks Mecky, we will wait for good news

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Re: Experieces in Racing an Europa
« Reply #130 on: Thursday,April 24, 2014, 04:05:49 PM »
We were testing our Europa S2 at Zolder today. The car worked great. Only problem was a big collection of GT3 racers, who drove at the same time. Even one old Formula 1 car tested there. You have to watch the mirrors all the time. 2:01 min was quiet a nice time, but not the limit. Without that much traffic we would have laped in under two minutes. We completed about 60 laps. :pirate:

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Re: Experieces in Racing an Europa
« Reply #131 on: Sunday,May 04, 2014, 08:36:12 AM »
that's awesome!!

Thanks Mecky, we will wait for good news

V
Hi Boys,

I did not get any useful replies from Switzerland at all. I am not convinced that the material, we found so far, is enough for legalizing the 1565 cc crossflow engine in GTS-class, but I talked to our brother A Schmidt-Ohren last week. Maybe he's going to try to get a FIA HTP in this configuration.

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Re: Experieces in Racing an Europa
« Reply #132 on: Sunday,May 04, 2014, 02:57:39 PM »
Hi Stefan,

Thank you anyway for your help!
This sounds weird, I don't understand why the Swiss don't want to help us..
Ideally we need a photo of the engine bay, but we could try to use the documents I collected so far.

Entry list Ollon Villars 1971.
Entry list St Ursanne 1971.
Official Results St Ursanne 1971.
Photo of the car in action at St Ursanne.
List of races the car has taken place untill 1974.
Photo of the car in 1973.
Catalogue with tech spec of the Swiss Lotus Dealer.

In case some of you want to proceed just ask me, I will email the documents.
I am undergoing to restore my R8 Gordini 1100 racecar period F.
I will be off from my Lotus for a while...
Ciao
Valerio.

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Re: Experieces in Racing an Europa
« Reply #133 on: Monday,May 05, 2014, 12:22:53 AM »
The problem with the swiss catalogue is the stamp mark on the first site, which says "MARS 1972".

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Re: Experieces in Racing an Europa
« Reply #134 on: Monday,May 05, 2014, 01:20:37 PM »
Hey Mecky!
Don't be so negative, look... other documents are on the go. :)
The lotus hemi 807 were on the market since 1969!
there was even a special vesion called Black Shadow equiped with a Kugelfisher (Thanks Germany!) injection.


and look... gearbox 5 speed.


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