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Re: Front disc brakes will not release on 72 Europa Twin Cam
« Reply #15 on: Thursday,September 17, 2020, 07:20:06 AM »
I removed the pads; and they all seem to be tight; both sides.

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Re: Front disc brakes will not release on 72 Europa Twin Cam
« Reply #16 on: Thursday,September 17, 2020, 09:35:31 AM »
They should move along the two pins freely, but not too freely. .

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Re: Front disc brakes will not release on 72 Europa Twin Cam
« Reply #17 on: Thursday,September 17, 2020, 09:42:00 AM »
Pads removed, are the wheels now free?

You can sand excess pad thickness off with sandpaper and a flat surface.

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Re: Front disc brakes will not release on 72 Europa Twin Cam
« Reply #18 on: Thursday,September 17, 2020, 10:19:25 AM »
Pads removed, are the wheels now free?

You can sand excess pad thickness off with sandpaper and a flat surface.

My problem was the metal backing plates were rough and didn't slide in the calipers properly, not the thickness of the brake pad material.

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Re: Front disc brakes will not release on 72 Europa Twin Cam
« Reply #19 on: Sunday,September 27, 2020, 09:38:50 AM »
I solved one of the problems on my brake issue as the pads were too thick for the rotors.  Second problem:  I have rebuilt the brake master cylinder and there is pressure coming out of the rear port (closest to the firewall) but no pressure coming out of the front port.  Suggestions?

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Re: Front disc brakes will not release on 72 Europa Twin Cam
« Reply #20 on: Sunday,September 27, 2020, 10:31:06 AM »
I solved one of the problems on my brake issue as the pads were too thick for the rotors.  Second problem:  I have rebuilt the brake master cylinder and there is pressure coming out of the rear port (closest to the firewall) but no pressure coming out of the front port.  Suggestions?

Air! Are you trying bench bleeding?

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Re: Front disc brakes will not release on 72 Europa Twin Cam
« Reply #21 on: Sunday,September 27, 2020, 12:26:12 PM »
Yes, I am trying bench bleeding.

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Re: Front disc brakes will not release on 72 Europa Twin Cam
« Reply #22 on: Sunday,September 27, 2020, 03:40:13 PM »
35 year as a mechanic and I don't rebuild brake masters anymore.  I only fit new.  When I'm screaming down a mountain pass, I want them to work.  If you are restoring a trailer queen then originality comes into play.  Driver?  Just fit new.

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Re: Front disc brakes will not release on 72 Europa Twin Cam
« Reply #23 on: Monday,September 28, 2020, 04:52:03 AM »
35 year as a mechanic and I don't rebuild brake masters anymore.  I only fit new.  When I'm screaming down a mountain pass, I want them to work.  If you are restoring a trailer queen then originality comes into play.  Driver?  Just fit new.

46 years as a mechanic - ditto
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Re: Front disc brakes will not release on 72 Europa Twin Cam
« Reply #24 on: Monday,September 28, 2020, 07:30:27 AM »
I appreciate the feedback buying a new brake master cylinder.  It seems like originals are not out there.  Is there one that I can use with the same port line set up, that will work as an original?  Thanks for the help!

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Re: Front disc brakes will not release on 72 Europa Twin Cam
« Reply #25 on: Monday,September 28, 2020, 08:11:03 AM »
What is the bore size of your original master cylinder?

Do you have twin brake boosters?

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Re: Front disc brakes will not release on 72 Europa Twin Cam
« Reply #26 on: Monday,September 28, 2020, 09:08:00 AM »
He says it's a 72 TC, so the unobtainable MC. There are on this forum several alternatives. I have  a Triumph Spitfire MC with remote reservoirs. I think there's a Grumblebuns post listing alternatives people have tried.
I had fitted the Datsun MC, lovely light bit of kit, but eventually it failed and can no longer be found. Shame!

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Re: Front disc brakes will not release on 72 Europa Twin Cam
« Reply #27 on: Monday,September 28, 2020, 09:52:57 AM »
Still want to know exactly what "Marks" has before making a recommendation.

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Re: Front disc brakes will not release on 72 Europa Twin Cam
« Reply #28 on: Monday,September 28, 2020, 09:53:50 AM »
I do have the 2 brake servos.

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Re: Front disc brakes will not release on 72 Europa Twin Cam
« Reply #29 on: Monday,September 28, 2020, 09:58:39 AM »
Do you know the bore of the master cylinder?

Are the boosters still hooked up?

Myself, heretic that I am, I would remove the boosters and "miles" extra piping.