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Offline StephenH

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Coneloc nuts for those pesky rear axles
« on: Monday,December 21, 2015, 03:30:39 AM »
Just wanted to post my experience this last year or so with the dreaded loose rear axle nuts.

In short, I have not (yet.... knock wood?) experienced any loss of torque since changing to Coneloc type mechanical locking nuts.
Note the washers under the nuts are now spacers giving the correct amount of thread for the nut to work with.
I still check the torque on a regular basis but they sit exactly as originally set (which has been 160lb, maybe I'll drop that back to 150 now).

Have only removed the nuts once to do some work on the hubs, they removed easily and haven't caused any noticable damage to the axle threads.
I'm treating these nuts as single use, so removed nuts go in the bin.

If you don't know of these nuts, Google is your friend, plus the friendly fastener salesman down the road.
Happy to be told why these nuts are not appropriate, I couldn't find any reason why not originally.
Stephen
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Re: Coneloc nuts for those pesky rear axles
« Reply #1 on: Monday,December 21, 2015, 04:18:13 AM »
In the US, Ace Hardware sells them. They are great on problem exhaust manifolds and turbos too.

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Re: Coneloc nuts for those pesky rear axles
« Reply #2 on: Monday,December 21, 2015, 05:42:56 AM »
I don't suspect your nuts are loosening and checking the tightness of a nut or bolt with a torque wrench is much better than nothing, but it doesn't really tell you that it's still as tight as when you first torqued it. Static friction is higher than kenetic friction so it will take a bit more torque to break it loose than to tighten it in the first place. So if you want to ensure that a fastener is at a specified torque, you should loosen it a little and then retorque it.

I'm a little curious why you don't trusr the D washer?

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Re: Coneloc nuts for those pesky rear axles
« Reply #3 on: Monday,December 21, 2015, 02:53:54 PM »
All possibly true, maybe I'm just an untrusting soul ;-)
Stephen
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Re: Coneloc nuts for those pesky rear axles
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday,December 22, 2015, 12:59:26 AM »
I came across an interesting wedge locking washer system called nord-lock.

have a look at their site http://www.nord-lock.com/
There is a video showing of something called the Junker test, i think it is really interesting. http://www.nord-lock.com/bolted/watch-the-new-junker-test-video-here/

Best regards
John
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Re: Coneloc nuts for those pesky rear axles
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday,December 22, 2015, 05:31:04 AM »
That was fascinating! Thanks!

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Re: Coneloc nuts for those pesky rear axles
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday,December 22, 2015, 05:41:39 AM »
A properly assembled and tighted rear hub does not "loosen".  Something internally wears out or collapses. You can spot weld the nut in place and it still won't make any difference.

That said, Nord-Locks are cool and I do use them in certain critical places.