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Originally a 1970 Europa, Now a WTF on BaT
« on: Wednesday,July 26, 2023, 06:02:51 AM »
I won't even try to explain. I have no words. Here is the link:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-lotus-europa-12/
- A Norwegian Blue with beautiful plumage is still nothing but a dead parrot.

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Re: Originally a 1970 Europa, Now a WTF on BaT
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday,July 26, 2023, 08:00:59 AM »
Parts car?

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Re: Originally a 1970 Europa, Now a WTF on BaT
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday,July 26, 2023, 08:47:13 AM »
Wouldn't think of buying it if I had money to burn but what a labor of love from somebody and what skill to produce it! I think it's an amazing car. It's going to require a particular person to want something like that!

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Re: Originally a 1970 Europa, Now a WTF on BaT
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday,July 26, 2023, 10:38:48 AM »
The styling and finish are not at all to my liking, but 'hats-off' for the craftsmanship. Kudos, too, for retaining a reasonable tire sidewall profile, though I do question the use of 13" wheels on a full custom build. I originally suspected it would be heavier and not as slippery as a Europa, but the seller claims it is only 1050 lbs.  In the end, I find it equally interesting and unattractive.
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Re: Originally a 1970 Europa, Now a WTF on BaT
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday,July 26, 2023, 12:03:34 PM »
Well....that's interesting .... wouldn't call it a Europa though.
The more I do the more I find I need to do....

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Re: Originally a 1970 Europa, Now a WTF on BaT
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday,July 26, 2023, 12:09:04 PM »
BAT has been accepting things lately I never would have expected.
I guess a listing there there transforms "Junk" into "Treasure"?

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Re: Originally a 1970 Europa, Now a WTF on BaT
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday,July 26, 2023, 04:23:52 PM »
I honestly think if Antoni Gaudí had redesigned a Europa, it would still look a whole lot better than this thing.
- A Norwegian Blue with beautiful plumage is still nothing but a dead parrot.

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1973 White Europa TCS
2012 Jaguar XJL 5.0 Supercharged
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Re: Originally a 1970 Europa, Now a WTF on BaT
« Reply #7 on: Thursday,July 27, 2023, 08:19:14 AM »
Kinda looks like a corvette rear window is being used as the windshield, certainly a lot of interesting choices here

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Re: Originally a 1970 Europa, Now a WTF on BaT
« Reply #8 on: Thursday,July 27, 2023, 10:09:52 AM »
 :Welcome: cannonsami

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Re: Originally a 1970 Europa, Now a WTF on BaT
« Reply #9 on: Thursday,July 27, 2023, 10:22:08 AM »
 :Welcome: indeed, cannonsami!!!

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Re: Originally a 1970 Europa, Now a WTF on BaT
« Reply #10 on: Thursday,July 27, 2023, 02:41:23 PM »
I have the fix for this one.
Remove the body and graft it to a Toyota MR2.
Salvage the Lotus parts.

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Re: Originally a 1970 Europa, Now a WTF on BaT
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday,August 02, 2023, 10:21:49 AM »
It went for $55,750.

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Re: Originally a 1970 Europa, Now a WTF on BaT
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday,August 02, 2023, 11:31:43 AM »
Ugh, some people mistake Van Gough for an artist, others recognize him as just a mental patient.  :confused:

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Re: Originally a 1970 Europa, Now a WTF on BaT
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday,August 02, 2023, 12:08:23 PM »
As people modify their cars, other people apparently view them as something else. Personally, I'm accepting of a lot of mods, but even to me, calling this a Europa is stretching the definition of "Europa" way beyond the breaking point! This is not meant as a criticism of the car but rather the amount (or lack) of "Europaness." Yet that's what BaT did. Not only was the car listed as a "custom-bodied Europa" but they included it in their price comparison graph! It's not clear to me that the buyer cared one whit about Europas and so I don't believe it belongs in a comparison with other Europas.

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Re: Originally a 1970 Europa, Now a WTF on BaT
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday,August 02, 2023, 01:12:33 PM »
As people modify their cars, other people apparently view them as something else. Personally, I'm accepting of a lot of mods, but even to me, calling this a Europa is stretching the definition of "Europa" way beyond the breaking point! This is not meant as a criticism of the car but rather the amount (or lack) of "Europaness." Yet that's what BaT did. Not only was the car listed as a "custom-bodied Europa" but they included it in their price comparison graph! It's not clear to me that the buyer cared one whit about Europas and so I don't believe it belongs in a comparison with other Europas.

I agree with you on the valuation piece this shouldn't be in with Europas.  I think BAT probably gets their hands tied as the car is most likely legally registered as a Lotus Europa though it is that in spirit only. 

As for the body.  My 2 cents is that it isn't half bad, the skill required to build a car that is polished is phenomenal.  Even if it isn't every bodies taste it is an amazing piece of craftsmanship.   
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