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Title: 1970 S2 on BaT
Post by: BDA on Friday,July 17, 2020, 05:32:50 PM
Nice slightly modified 1970 S2 on BaT. It will be interesting to see what it brings.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-lotus-europa-2/
Title: Re: 1970 S2 on BaT
Post by: GavinT on Friday,July 17, 2020, 08:09:28 PM
Interesting driving style in the video.
One hand on the wheel while the other hand has a death grip the gearstick.
Title: Re: 1970 S2 on BaT
Post by: 1970EuropaGuy on Friday,July 17, 2020, 09:10:43 PM
A good looking car. Yes, it will be interesting to see what it brings.
Title: Re: 1970 S2 on BaT
Post by: 1970EuropaGuy on Friday,July 17, 2020, 09:14:27 PM
Interesting driving style in the video.
One hand on the wheel while the other hand has a death grip the gearstick.
I noticed that too. Get you two hands on the steering wheel.
Title: Re: 1970 S2 on BaT
Post by: jbcollier on Friday,July 17, 2020, 09:24:58 PM
I'll bet the gearshift rattles otherwise.
Title: Re: 1970 S2 on BaT
Post by: GavinT on Friday,July 17, 2020, 09:33:59 PM
I'll bet the gearshift rattles otherwise.

Ha . . that's what I reckon, too.

Many Europa owners that will recognise what's happening.
We know the gear change might be ponderous on an already ponderously changing gearbox.
Title: Re: 1970 S2 on BaT
Post by: Chuck Nukem on Saturday,July 18, 2020, 07:04:47 AM
Interesting driving style in the video.
One hand on the wheel while the other hand has a death grip the gearstick.

That guy has a straight up meat club for a hand!
Title: Re: 1970 S2 on BaT
Post by: Sparkrite on Saturday,July 18, 2020, 08:02:01 AM
This seems like the sort of car I would buy. Not having driven one before but watching the YouTube video link on my mobile, the engine does not sound nice. I will try a hear a few more from YouTube but how would you guys describe the engines, renault and lotus in how sweet do they run when revved up to the limit and how do they sound.
Title: Re: 1970 S2 on BaT
Post by: Sandyman on Saturday,July 18, 2020, 08:42:23 AM
How many 1565 cc wedge headed engines were put into Europas?
Title: Re: 1970 S2 on BaT
Post by: jbcollier on Saturday,July 18, 2020, 05:35:01 PM
Noise is subjective.  My favourite engine sound, bar none, is the Aston Martin 6 cylinder.  A short stroke engine so it revs cleanly and note reverberates up and down your spine.  &$% amazing.

I like the Renault engine as well.  It's alloy so it's harsher than a cast block.  Chain thrash gets through.  It's also 12" from your ear so the intake noise is prominent as well.  The noise on the video sounds about right to me.
Title: Re: 1970 S2 on BaT
Post by: surfguitar58 on Sunday,July 19, 2020, 07:09:48 AM
My favourite engine sound, bar none, is the Aston Martin 6 cylinder.  A short stroke engine so it revs cleanly and note reverberates up and down your spine.  &$% amazing.

You'll like this then. Factory works Aston DB4GT. Skip ahead to the test drive AFTER the tune-up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffH6hFfqyDM
Title: Re: 1970 S2 on BaT
Post by: jbcollier on Sunday,July 19, 2020, 07:27:44 AM
Nice but no where near the sensation when you are right there.
Title: Re: 1970 S2 on BaT
Post by: surfguitar58 on Sunday,July 19, 2020, 07:37:41 AM
Nice but no where near the sensation when you are right there.

No doubt. I'll just pop down to the garage and fire up the DB4. Oh, wait...
Title: Re: 1970 S2 on BaT
Post by: Sparkrite on Sunday,July 19, 2020, 08:58:08 AM
My favourite engine sound is that of my fiat which I should hear again soon following a 4 year rebuild. Not that I expect the europa to sound this good but at least for it to be a pleasant sound.
Not mine but same model  https://youtu.be/xC10NHPql6Q
Title: Re: 1970 S2 on BaT
Post by: jbcollier on Sunday,July 19, 2020, 09:27:46 AM
Nice, and nice to see a video where they are actually driving hard.  FIAT has a raft of soulful sounding engines.

I'd like to pop down to my garage and find a DB as well, no such luck.  But I have been lucky to work on them.  Ferrari's allure disappears quickly when you work on them -- or maybe it's the owners who are so #$% annoying (not all of them, I know, but...).  Not with Astons.  Joy to work on, joy to drive.  And that sound!  It's like it causes a sympathetic vibration deep inside.  Gives me the shivers just thinking about it.

Another vehicle that does the same, and I do own, is my '66 Ducati 250 single.  It's heavily modified and it's bark is amazing.
Title: Re: 1970 S2 on BaT
Post by: BDA on Sunday,July 19, 2020, 09:51:58 AM
My favourite engine sound, bar none, is the Aston Martin 6 cylinder.  A short stroke engine so it revs cleanly and note reverberates up and down your spine.  &$% amazing.

You'll like this then. Factory works Aston DB4GT. Skip ahead to the test drive AFTER the tune-up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffH6hFfqyDM
That is a great video from a very interesting channel. In one, it looked like they might have a Lotus of some description but the camera panned too quickly to be sure.

When he was tuning the carbs, I thought he was being silly balancing them using the hose method but a view of the air box showed there wasn't enough room to use anything else.

As I looked around at other videos, I found they had one with the same guy tuning a Miura in front of a live audience. What did he use to balance the carbs of that V-12? Not the manometer he threw away but a length of heater hose! I'm in awe of this guy. Here's a link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gltlKhTvIL0).
Title: Re: 1970 S2 on BaT
Post by: surfguitar58 on Sunday,July 19, 2020, 09:54:43 AM
  Ferrari's allure disappears quickly when you work on them -- or maybe it's the owners who are so #$% annoying (not all of them, I know, but...). 

One of the things I like about driving the Lotus is the camaraderie of other classic/sports car owners. A while back I saw a Lamborghini Aventador closing in rapidly in the rear view mirror, so I pulled over to let it pass. Turns out the guys in the Lambo just wanted to get a look at the Lotus and give me a thumbs-up. Ferrari owners seldom give a second glance. It is disappointing to hear that attitude occurs even in universally nice Canada.
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Title: Re: 1970 S2 on BaT
Post by: jbcollier on Sunday,July 19, 2020, 05:06:20 PM
No where is universally nice.  We just hide under a veneer of politeness.  Why just the other day I talked to my annoying neighbour and I pointedly never asked after his mother.  Who knew what depths Evil could plumb.

I used to work in a Peugeot/Citroën shop.  We had one grumpy client.  Everyone else was wonderful.  Moved to as Jag shop.  We had one (1) nice client.  Everyone else was awful.  You could say there was nothing wrong, no charge, hand them a $100 and they would still cuss you and the car out.  Some kind of image thing going on I never figured out.
Title: Re: 1970 S2 on BaT
Post by: jbcollier on Sunday,July 19, 2020, 05:21:05 PM
Not advocating you buy an Aston 6, BTW.  The stock set-up has you adjusting the valves by swapping followers and grinding valve stems.  In other words, the head has to come out!  Many are modified to take Jag shims, thank goodness.
Title: Re: 1970 S2 on BaT
Post by: BDA on Sunday,July 19, 2020, 05:33:28 PM
I'm nearing the end of my recent valve adjusting adventure. I can relate. Post to follow...
Title: Re: 1970 S2 on BaT
Post by: jbcollier on Friday,July 24, 2020, 03:22:56 PM
$17,750.

Someone over paid I think.  I asked two times about the condition of the chassis, especially at the front, and got no response from the seller.  Answered every other question.  Told long stories about every imaginable subject.  But no photos or comments on the chassis.

Hope it works out for the buyer.  It certainly has for the seller.
Title: Re: 1970 S2 on BaT
Post by: BDA on Friday,July 24, 2020, 03:29:37 PM
It looks like the shape of the interior and the clean engine compartment swayed the bidders. I thought it was a bit high, too.