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Title: Paint or not paint
Post by: Gary t on Sunday,August 01, 2021, 09:31:11 PM
I have been  on the fence about putting  black paint on the vertical strip under the doors  where the outer shell is riveted to the inner  shell. I have inherited a part can of black bed liner paint,  and now I need to decide.  All of the  fasteners are new and shiny and I have no easy  route for matching the existing body paint.
Title: Re: Paint or not paint
Post by: EuropaTC on Sunday,August 01, 2021, 10:22:45 PM
Try it out in Photoshop ?  That's what I usually do but a practical way for that area would be to simply run a strip of black duck tape over the strip and see if you can live with it ?

I did mine in black simply because it doesn't show the dirt, mud or stone chips as much as yellow does....

Brian
Title: Re: Paint or not paint
Post by: S2Zetec54 on Monday,August 02, 2021, 02:14:26 AM
It would be interesting to understand how they left the factory.

I did exactly as Brian suggested and taped up one side and left the other.. personally and with my colour I prefer the black….haven’t got around to actually painting it though. The tape then peeled off

For me, and, as I say my colour it highlighted the lovely shape as it flicks up to the rear

Would love to see your experiment with yours
Title: Re: Paint or not paint
Post by: 4129R on Monday,August 02, 2021, 03:03:15 AM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174343652897

1972 sales brochure seems to show they were the same colour as the rest of the car.

But the sills will get a lot of stone chips, so painting them black would be far easier to touch up any stone chips.
Title: Re: Paint or not paint
Post by: JR73 on Monday,August 02, 2021, 05:47:37 AM
It was painted black from the factory.
Title: Re: Paint or not paint
Post by: 4129R on Monday,August 02, 2021, 06:01:51 AM
From that photo, it looks like Colin Chapman had run out of credit with the suppliers of the Elan wheels and tyres.
Title: Re: Paint or not paint
Post by: jbcollier on Monday,August 02, 2021, 06:18:33 AM
Black when new:

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Lotus-Europa/i-hbQm3xw/0/f9ffb3b6/X4/early%2054%20in%20BC-X4.jpg)
Title: Re: Paint or not paint
Post by: Blitzen on Monday,August 02, 2021, 06:33:17 AM
I wonder if it varied based on the color. All the pics in this thread show black rockers for yellow cars but body color for blue cars.  JR73’s picture best illustrates this as it has both a yellow and a blue car.
Title: Re: Paint or not paint
Post by: JR73 on Monday,August 02, 2021, 07:38:37 AM
I think that’s just the darker colours not showing the black as obviously. All the original cars I’ve ever seen where painted with black material beneath the doors regardless of body colour. Black cars had that area painted in the black ‘stone chip’ type material too, it’s dull/Matt.
Inner wheel arches where also blacked.
Title: Re: Paint or not paint
Post by: 4129R on Monday,August 02, 2021, 11:56:48 AM
Just to add to the confusion, I have had my fleet of 7 stripped back to bare fibreglass and painted by 2 ex-Lotus bodyshop workers, who work about 8 miles south of the Hethel factory. 

They painted the engine compartment and the area where the spare wheel goes, and all 4 wheel arches matt black.

They painted some of the door interiors gloss black.

They painted all of the sills the same colour as the rest of the body.
Title: Re: Paint or not paint
Post by: JR73 on Monday,August 02, 2021, 12:41:24 PM
Mine was body colour underneath the black from the factory, so that’s not wrong tbh just not quite finished as per original. It is a little prone to stone damage too as has already been mentioned.

I’m fairly sure it was blacked out so that the original body lines of the S1 where retained (they don’t have the inner and outer shell joint like S2’s and TC’s) and the TC sill covers completely hide the joint.
Title: Re: Paint or not paint
Post by: EuropaTC on Monday,August 02, 2021, 01:08:49 PM
If you think about it the small vertical panel would be painted in body colour during the main paint process, they wouldn't bother masking that off. But I also doubt they would have prepared the area properly for paint,  so although coloured it probably looked lousy so it wouldn't surprise me if they'd gone over it with matt or satin black. 

I looked back over my photos and this is one I took on the way home after buying the car, which at that time hadn't had any paintwork done. A one owner car, the PO added the pinstripes but never had to touch the paint, in fact one of the selling points was that the bodywork was totally original, no accidents/repairs, not even gelcoat ones.

Which surprised me because I thought it was something I'd done, but obviously not.
Title: Re: Paint or not paint
Post by: Bainford on Tuesday,August 03, 2021, 10:32:43 AM
My 2 cents; I'd paint the area black. I find it hides a bit of lower body ugliness, provides a nice finished look, and visually slims the lines of the body.
Title: Re: Paint or not paint
Post by: Gary t on Tuesday,August 03, 2021, 11:08:08 AM
Thanks for all of the input. I put black tape on and have decided to paint. I'll do before and after photos when I am done.
Title: Re: Paint or not paint
Post by: Gary t on Monday,August 09, 2021, 07:58:42 PM
before during and after
Opinions??

I don't mind it at least the pop rivets and bolts are sort of hiding. I need to take it out and see from a few meters away.
Title: Re: Paint or not paint
Post by: Bainford on Tuesday,August 10, 2021, 05:22:33 AM
Looks great! A significant improvement, I think. A much tidier look all around.
Title: Re: Paint or not paint
Post by: S2Zetec54 on Tuesday,August 10, 2021, 05:26:51 AM
Looks good….an improvement, for sure
Title: Re: Paint or not paint
Post by: JR73 on Tuesday,August 10, 2021, 06:30:58 AM
Definitely looks much better painted.
Title: Re: Paint or not paint
Post by: gideon on Tuesday,August 10, 2021, 07:57:23 AM
That's definitely an improvement.
Title: Re: Paint or not paint
Post by: Dilkris on Tuesday,August 10, 2021, 09:38:52 AM
I have been  on the fence about putting  black paint on the vertical strip under the doors....... 
Am I missing something here?? We are talking about the lower horizontal section of the body right...??? 
Title: Re: Paint or not paint
Post by: JR73 on Tuesday,August 10, 2021, 10:05:06 AM
I have been  on the fence about putting  black paint on the vertical strip under the doors....... 
Am I missing something here?? We are talking about the lower horizontal section of the body right...???

🤣 yes, vertical face that runs from behind the front wheel to in front of the rear wheel under the door in a horizontal plane when you are looking at the side of the car from an upright standing/seated position….🤪