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Title: Lotus Badges - which ones?
Post by: Dilkris on Saturday,December 12, 2020, 03:29:07 AM
I am rebuilding a TCS first registered 18.10.73 - am I correct in thinking that the World Champion Car Constructors Badges should be 6 years up to 1973 complete with Laurel? (Or is my car too early to show the 1973 year?)   
Title: Re: Lotus Badges - which ones?
Post by: Pfreen on Saturday,December 12, 2020, 04:51:27 AM
I am not an expert, but my car was registered in 1974, but it was built in December, 1972.  Lotus had won the World Championship by December of 1972, so I have the 1972 badge.  FYI, my sn number is 2963R.
Title: Re: Lotus Badges - which ones?
Post by: SilverBeast on Saturday,December 12, 2020, 04:53:46 AM
Mine (2267P) was built November 1973, by the chassis number, but not registered until November 1974. It has the 6 year badge (including 1973) but doesn't have the laurel. It's the same on both sides. I believe at least one has been replaced though, from receipts passed to me.

You probably need to go by build date, rather than registration date.
Title: Re: Lotus Badges - which ones?
Post by: Dilkris on Saturday,December 12, 2020, 09:56:58 AM
Thanks for the replies - what exactly is the significance of the the Laurel anyway? In my ignorance I thought it was connected to the passing of ACBC - but that was 16.12.82 - so it can't be.   :confused:
Title: Re: Lotus Badges - which ones?
Post by: literarymadness on Saturday,December 12, 2020, 11:07:07 AM
My car (2758R) was built October of 1972 and came with the 1970 badge.  Odds are most likely in an October, 1973-built car would still be wearing the 1972 badge from the factory unless it was swapped out by the dealer. But since your car is a 1974 MY, a 1973 badge would certainly be appropriate.
Title: Re: Lotus Badges - which ones?
Post by: Dilkris on Sunday,December 13, 2020, 12:37:36 AM
So Lotus were awarded 7 Constructors' Championships (1963, 1965, 1968, 1970, 1972, 1973, 1978) and 6 Drivers' Championships (1963, 1965, 1968, 1970, 1972, 1978)
The 1973 Formula One season started the 28 January (73) and ended on 7 October (73).
So with my chassis number showing the car build date as October 73, (73102227P), on the proviso it was prior to the 7th - I should be displaying the 6 year badge (up to 73) - correct?
The significance of the Laurel still remains as 6 year badges exist with and without it.   ???   
Title: Re: Lotus Badges - which ones?
Post by: Pfreen on Sunday,December 13, 2020, 05:18:11 AM
You stated your car was registered in October of 1973?  In the U.S., that is not the same as the build date. 
Title: Re: Lotus Badges - which ones?
Post by: SilverBeast on Sunday,December 13, 2020, 05:26:42 AM
You stated your car was registered in October of 1973?  In the U.S., that is not the same as the build date. 

The post above yours corrects it to build date, as evidenced by the chassis number, which is 40 before mine.
Title: Re: Lotus Badges - which ones?
Post by: Pfreen on Sunday,December 13, 2020, 06:09:34 AM
I guess the party last night blurred my brain. :BEER3:
Title: Re: Lotus Badges - which ones?
Post by: literarymadness on Sunday,December 13, 2020, 06:50:30 AM
Lotus would have ordered the badges sometime after October 7, 1973 and would have started placing them on cars at least a few weeks after that if not longer. Lotus would have waited till the old badges were used up (Most likely sometime in November). I have a early TCS and it came with the earlier TC tachometer face plate with the lower redline and not the updated on later TCS's. My car is also Colorado Orange which was no longer being offered in the 73MY but Lotus was using up leftover paint from the 72MY and built nine till the paint was gone because Lotus didn't keep old stuff around and was notorious for overlapping features from MY to MY especially if your car was built early on in the prior production year (for example my 73MY TCS built in 10/1972 and so on). 
Title: Re: Lotus Badges - which ones?
Post by: Dilkris on Sunday,December 13, 2020, 09:25:41 AM
Thanks for all the feed back - rightly or wrongly I'm going for 6 years and 73 without the Laurel - I think they look cool   :FUNNY:
Title: Re: Lotus Badges - which ones?
Post by: BobW on Sunday,December 13, 2020, 09:48:01 AM
Thanks for the replies - what exactly is the significance of the the Laurel anyway? In my ignorance I thought it was connected to the passing of ACBC - but that was 16.12.82 - so it can't be.   :confused:
I've always thought the laurel represented the laurel wreath given to the race winner as part of the victory celebration. That symbolism continues the classical Roman custom.
Title: Re: Lotus Badges - which ones?
Post by: BDA on Sunday,December 13, 2020, 09:58:50 AM
Thanks for all the feed back - rightly or wrongly I'm going for 6 years and 73 without the Laurel - I think they look cool   :FUNNY:

You won't get an argument from me! My car has the final 7 year badge even though it was built in the summer of '73. I wasn't going to miss Mario's championship in 1978!
Title: Re: Lotus Badges - which ones?
Post by: Dilkris on Sunday,December 13, 2020, 10:46:33 AM
Thanks for the replies - what exactly is the significance of the the Laurel anyway? In my ignorance I thought it was connected to the passing of ACBC - but that was 16.12.82 - so it can't be.   :confused:
I've always thought the laurel represented the laurel wreath given to the race winner as part of the victory celebration. That symbolism continues the classical Roman custom.
So did I - but in 73 they didn't win the Drivers Championship - only Constructors and it doesn't seem to make sense that a Laurel would be included for that - or does it?  :confused:  But it's Lotus - who knows ????? 
Title: Re: Lotus Badges - which ones?
Post by: Broadside on Sunday,December 13, 2020, 11:43:42 AM
My car came with a 5 year badges and its a 1969! so clearly an add on, but I think they'll have to go back on, just because..............
Title: Re: Lotus Badges - which ones?
Post by: literarymadness on Sunday,December 13, 2020, 06:11:51 PM
If you take at look at these three 1972 Championship Badges, you will see the green laurel in various states of fade. I am guessing that all Lotus Championship badges came with green laurels and the ones that still have them are either in incredible condition or replacements. I don't think there were multiple versions of the same badge. That would include the 1973 badges.
Title: Re: Lotus Badges - which ones?
Post by: BDA on Sunday,December 13, 2020, 06:14:41 PM
I think you're right. I think the laurel was always there but some got bleached out.
Title: Re: Lotus Badges - which ones?
Post by: Dilkris on Monday,December 14, 2020, 06:31:37 AM
I think you're right. I think the laurel was always there but some got bleached out.
Just to confuse matters further - here in the UK from a well known Lotus specialist supplier - you can buy either of the following. :huh:
Laurel or no Laurel  :FUNNY: