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Title: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: EuropatcSPECIAL on Monday,February 23, 2015, 11:13:59 AM
Good evening Gents. I've decided to have the pin stripes put on the car. 2 questions
1)What is the width of the pin stripe
2) Has anyone a flattened view or similar of the positioning of the pin stripes please
many thanks
Stuart
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: BDA on Monday,February 23, 2015, 11:33:41 AM
I think the pin striping was often applied at dealerships because they are sometimes different. They are usually 3/16" or 1/4" in bright gold tape. You can get some ideas from googling 'europa jps striping'. In fact, a picture of my car comes up! I remember seeing where someone posted measurements for where the stripes are on the lotuseuropa yahoo group (a great resource in addition to this forum), but I couldn't find it just now.

Normally the strips rim the bonnet, the area in front of the bonnet between the turn signals, roof, the "flat panel" areas behind the doors and above the rear wheels, and the "flat area" on the boot. Then there is a strip the goes from just behind the head lamps, through the door handles to just in front of the rear bumper. In addition, I have a strip that rims the horizontal portion of the boot.
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: 4129R on Monday,February 23, 2015, 01:06:10 PM
When I had my original 1975 JPS car resprayed in 1979, they sprayed the gold pin stripes on.

Apparently that was a bitch of a job.

Getting pin stripes to follow curved lines is a challenge.

I had thought of getting a commercial sign writer to re-paint mine. 
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: BDA on Monday,February 23, 2015, 01:15:42 PM
That shouldn't be necessary. The body shop that painted my car put the stripes on as part of the job. The gave me a choice of colors - of course, I chose the brightest gold. The tape is fairly flexible to make some of those turns. The stripes on the back of the boot form a rectangle, but the first Europa I had actually had rounded corners on the bottom - a very tight turn. It could be that if I had used 3/16" tape, those corners might have been able to be rounded. Tape is a lot easier to repair.
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: 4129R on Monday,February 23, 2015, 01:17:06 PM
If you want, I can take photos of each panel, so you can see each design.

If you pop down to Norfolk down the A1, with some tracing paper, you can copy the design of mine. I'm near Fakenham.
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: EuropatcSPECIAL on Monday,February 23, 2015, 02:29:15 PM
Thank you all, 3/16ths it is then. Ill give him a call tomorrow
all the best
Stuart
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: LotusJoe on Monday,March 02, 2015, 05:11:23 PM
I found a link to the proper pin striping for the Twin Cam Special.

http://www.lotus-europa.com/manuals/misc/TCS%20Stripes%2074.pdf (http://www.lotus-europa.com/manuals/misc/TCS%20Stripes%2074.pdf)
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: EuropatcSPECIAL on Tuesday,March 03, 2015, 08:42:58 AM
LotusJoe your a star. Thank you for going to such trouble
all the best
Stuart
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: EuropatcSPECIAL on Wednesday,March 04, 2015, 02:11:48 PM
Gentlemen another question, do you know of anyone who readily has a stock of 3/16th. The chap at the body shop isn't having much joy in sourcing a supply
thanks in anticipation
all the best
Stuart
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: BDA on Wednesday,March 04, 2015, 02:48:47 PM
CarQuest lists 3/16" 3M pinstriping but I don't see it on 3M's site. To my surprise, I wasn't able to find any 3/16" single color striping anywhere in the short time I looked. I used 1/4" on my car. But then I thought they were 1/4" originally. It could have been that they really were 1/4" but it was 35 years since I had seen my car with stripes when I got my car painted, so my memory might be off! I've posted some pictures of my car so you can see how it looks.

If you can't find 3/16", I'd go with 1/4". Just my opinion.

Good luck!
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: jbcollier on Wednesday,March 04, 2015, 03:41:01 PM
Just google "3/16 pin striping gold".  Lots of hits.
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: BDA on Wednesday,March 04, 2015, 05:16:47 PM
Good catch, John! I would have thought my searches would have picked at least some of those! The wonders and oddities of Google!

One of the hits I got was from O'Reilly's (http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/MMM0/70503/N2514.oap?pt=N2514&ppt=C2390). Here is the Scotch page for that product (http://3mcollision.com/products/decorative-reflective-film-tape/striping/3m-scotchcal-striping-tape-70503-gold-metallic.html).
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: EuropatcSPECIAL on Thursday,March 05, 2015, 08:47:20 AM
Thank you all
its a big help
Stuart
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: EuropatcSPECIAL on Saturday,April 04, 2015, 02:39:50 PM
Update, I found a chap to do the job. He is 30 miles from my home base. He has undertaken this sort of work for 30 years, and he had 3/16th in stock
Result
thank you all again.
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: BDA on Saturday,April 04, 2015, 05:42:03 PM
He sounds like the ticket! Don't forget to post pictures when he's done!
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: 4129R on Sunday,April 05, 2015, 01:03:53 AM
Update, I found a chap to do the job. He is 30 miles from my home base. He has undertaken this sort of work for 30 years, and he had 3/16th in stock
Result
thank you all again.

Can you let us now his details, and how much he charges. I will have another one for him to do if the price is right.
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: EuropatcSPECIAL on Sunday,April 05, 2015, 03:02:10 PM
Will do BDA, 4129R HE TRADES AS AUTOGRAPHIC, 44 Green Acres, Eggborough,DN14 OTQ  It was £140 that included materials, traveling to Hull. He was 5 or 6 hours   his e mail is madfax3@tiscali.co.uk     and his telephone is07831215174   His name is Tony
all the best
Stuart
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: EuropatcSPECIAL on Monday,April 06, 2015, 02:47:40 PM
as requested by BDA
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z55qB3ek0Bs/VSL9DAcN31I/AAAAAAAAAlQ/MDvHCDB7AwE/w1153-h865-no/Princess%2BQuay%2B06.04.2015%2B004.JPG)
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: EuropatcSPECIAL on Monday,April 06, 2015, 02:50:25 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5piii3IX77g/VSL8o4kciII/AAAAAAAAAlI/cpr9Sz1q0io/w1153-h865-no/Princess%2BQuay%2B06.04.2015%2B003.JPG)
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: EuropatcSPECIAL on Monday,April 06, 2015, 02:51:20 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Bl9UxRohSB8/VSL8hZ5XOcI/AAAAAAAAAk4/Vhl_fHJnnpY/w1153-h865-no/Princess%2BQuay%2B06.04.2015%2B002.JPG)
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: BDA on Monday,April 06, 2015, 04:33:08 PM
I'd say your guy did a very nice job on a very pretty car! Congratulations and kudos all around!  :beerchug:
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: EuropatcSPECIAL on Monday,April 06, 2015, 11:11:02 PM
Thanks BDA
all the best
Stuart
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: 3929R on Tuesday,April 07, 2015, 01:54:13 PM
Stunning!
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: Serge on Tuesday,April 07, 2015, 02:23:40 PM
Looks great!
Title: Re: PIN Stripes (coach lining)
Post by: EuropatcSPECIAL on Tuesday,April 07, 2015, 02:35:25 PM
Thank you Mark and Serge. The car was on display at the weekend at a car meet, I was amazed at how much attention it got
thanks again for your comments
all the best
Stuart