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Title: Handbrake Lever mounting - TC - Help Please
Post by: Dilkris on Monday,November 23, 2020, 01:59:40 AM
I need some help here please – the TCS I am rebuilding I, (foolishly), bought in pieces, so those “obvious” things on reassembly are not that “obvious” to me. I have searched the Forum and parts diagrams but cannot find the answer to this detail.
How is the lever mounted to the chassis? Please see photo’s
The lever and “pin” are shown cleaned, (they were seized solid), the mounting in the chassis is tapped 3/8” UNF and the lever boss obviously fits over this. But then I have the “pin” which is some 3” long and is tapped in a blind hole 3/8” UNF 20mm deep at one end and again a blind hole ¼” UNF and 12mm deep at the other.
What am I missing here? Or more to the point – what’s wrong?       
Title: Re: Handbrake Lever mounting - TC - Help Please
Post by: GavinT on Monday,November 23, 2020, 04:15:18 AM
Hi Dilkris,

I don't know what that drilled/taped pin is about.
The reaction lever is retained with a simple shoulder bolt & washer.

Here's a pic of the TCS arrangement for a left hand drive car.

Cheers,
Gavin
Title: Re: Handbrake Lever mounting - TC - Help Please
Post by: Dilkris on Monday,November 23, 2020, 04:46:08 AM
Thanks Gavin - that seems to make sense. It seems the mystery pin will remain a mistery !!
Out of interest - were did you get the "pictorial" from?
Chris
Title: Re: Handbrake Lever mounting - TC - Help Please
Post by: Dilkris on Monday,November 23, 2020, 04:48:04 AM
Sorry - "mystery"  :-\   
Title: Re: Handbrake Lever mounting - TC - Help Please
Post by: jbcollier on Monday,November 23, 2020, 06:31:22 AM
You can find an enormous amount of information here:

http://www.lotus-europa.com/manuals/index.htm

Owners/parts/service manuals, wiring diagrams, technical articles, etc.
Title: Re: Handbrake Lever mounting - TC - Help Please
Post by: GavinT on Monday,November 23, 2020, 06:44:19 AM
Out of interest - were did you get the "pictorial" from?
Chris

It came from a "Body Removal" post referencing Phil Ethier, a long time Europa guy.
Here's the link - might be helpful for other stuff.

http://www.lotus-europa.com/manuals/misc/body/Body_Removal.html
Title: Re: Handbrake Lever mounting - TC - Help Please
Post by: Dilkris on Monday,November 23, 2020, 10:43:41 AM
Thankyou JB Collier and Gavin - (all I managed to find was the below)  :headbanger:
Title: Re: Handbrake Lever mounting - TC - Help Please
Post by: Broadside on Monday,November 23, 2020, 11:27:09 AM
I've been looking at my handbrake too, it seems that when the cable is taut the horseshoe touches the bottom of the coolant pipes, is that normal?
Title: Re: Handbrake Lever mounting - TC - Help Please
Post by: SilverBeast on Monday,November 23, 2020, 11:43:44 AM
Mine is like this! http://www.lotuseuropa.org/LotusForum/index.php?topic=3266.msg33427#msg33427 (http://www.lotuseuropa.org/LotusForum/index.php?topic=3266.msg33427#msg33427)

There is a bit of a discussion about it there too!
Title: Re: Handbrake Lever mounting - TC - Help Please
Post by: Broadside on Monday,November 23, 2020, 01:19:33 PM
Interesting, mine run through the rear chassis below the coolant pipes in separate holes, one each side. Nothing in the hole where your cables run
Title: Re: Handbrake Lever mounting - TC - Help Please
Post by: SilverBeast on Monday,November 23, 2020, 02:26:56 PM
My handbrake cables do too, from the two holes linked by a slit. They have to so the handbrake outer cable ferules can seat in the holes.

The two you see with the outer cables are the speedo and choke I believe (as it's from memory!).

I couldn't get the horseshoe to sit above, or below the pipes, though I have not removed and refitted it to try. The consensus seemed to be that its unlikely to wear through the pipes before they rust!
Title: Re: Handbrake Lever mounting - TC - Help Please
Post by: jbcollier on Monday,November 23, 2020, 02:58:40 PM
Look in other manuals:

(http://www.lotus-europa.com/manuals/s1parts/j/J3.gif)
Title: Re: Handbrake Lever mounting - TC - Help Please
Post by: Broadside on Monday,November 23, 2020, 03:10:44 PM
Ah right, just read some more of your thread, so mine is correct running below the pipes in theory :-)
Title: Re: Handbrake Lever mounting - TC - Help Please
Post by: gideon on Monday,November 23, 2020, 07:19:49 PM
There's a labeled diagram of S2 rear bulkhead holes, here

http://lotus-europa.com/manuals/s2misc/framebulkhead.jpg
Title: Re: Handbrake Lever mounting - TC - Help Please
Post by: GavinT on Monday,November 23, 2020, 09:44:41 PM
One of these mounted above the coolant pipes would make adjustments so much easier.
Title: Re: Handbrake Lever mounting - TC - Help Please
Post by: jbcollier on Tuesday,November 24, 2020, 06:15:01 AM
It does get busy in there.  To mine I have also added: pressure and return lines for AC, two lines for a front mounted oil cooler and two cables for a cable shifter.
Title: Re: Handbrake Lever mounting - TC - Help Please
Post by: Nisswa Collision on Tuesday,November 24, 2020, 09:13:31 PM
Question: How much slop should there be, up & down, on the reaction lever pivot? Mine seems to have more than 1/8". Do you think that could cause any problem? I can't think of any but it doesn't seem right.
Title: Re: Handbrake Lever mounting - TC - Help Please
Post by: GavinT on Tuesday,November 24, 2020, 09:35:12 PM
There's supposed to be a washer/spacer under the pivot but I can't remember how much running clearance that provides . . or how much it's supposed to provide.

Can't see 1/8" up/down slop causing much issue but I've seen reports that the cable end rubs on the fibreglass underneath. I'd just put a washer/spacer in and allow a little clearance.
Title: Re: Handbrake Lever mounting - TC - Help Please
Post by: SilverBeast on Wednesday,November 25, 2020, 10:02:03 AM
Mine rubs. You can see in the picture I liked to earlier in the post.
Title: Re: Handbrake Lever mounting - TC - Help Please
Post by: Gary t on Wednesday,November 25, 2020, 10:18:24 AM
54/1173 rubs. I put a rub barrier on the coolant tubes.
Title: Re: Handbrake Lever mounting - TC - Help Please
Post by: GavinT on Wednesday,November 25, 2020, 06:19:57 PM
Mine rubs. You can see in the picture I liked to earlier in the post.
Hi Silver,

Referring to your earlier post, you said:

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I looked at the front linkage for the handbrake and noticed that the lever between the pull and the cable looks bent downwards so the cable to the rear scrapes the fibreglass.  Is this typical?

If I recall, the reaction lever is a Ford part (Cortina?) and as far as I know, that downward kink is stock.
The kink is to permit some reasonable alignment of the forward cable end with the horseshoe in the tunnel. Note the forward cable end is a slot shape to fit the reaction lever and has very limited ability to 'wiggle' about and conform to a variation in pull angles.
Viewed in side elevation, the cable traces a diagonal path but the reaction lever only moves horizontally. Make sense?

Yes, noted your cable end rubbing on the fibreglass but frankly, I wouldn't worry much. It's annoying but even if it wears through the fibreglass, I can't see much potential for a problem.