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Title: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: StrawberryCheesecake on Friday,October 30, 2015, 05:53:27 AM
Has anyone looked at this as an option? It's designed for a mk1/2 escort, but with a bit of cut and shut it might work?

Can anyone measure the clearance under the exh manifold to the engine mounting, as a rough guide?

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/291581569166?_mwBanner=1
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: LotusJoe on Friday,October 30, 2015, 09:33:21 AM
This was my solution. Cheap and readily available.
(http://www.lotuseuropa.org/gallery/albums/Zetec/pipingLeft.jpg)
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: BDA on Friday,October 30, 2015, 08:25:44 PM
Another option is what a friend did (see http://www.lotuseuropa.org/LotusForum/index.php?topic=1271.0). They were made in England and I have no idea what it cost him. He had to provide all the measurements so I would think making a second set would at least be quicker if not cheaper. If you're interested, PM me and I can get you in touch with my friend.

Joe's is a common solution and certainly less expensive than my friend's.
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: StrawberryCheesecake on Monday,November 02, 2015, 10:03:15 AM
There are 'weld your own' kits on ebay as well, but for a similar price, a 'finished' article that needs a little bit of cut and shut would work out a lot simpler, and save time. I think I'll do a test-install of the engine and measure up to get an idea if it will fit.
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: shortjedi on Monday,November 28, 2016, 01:53:01 PM
Hi guys,
Bit of an old post but the photo lotusjoe posted of his manifold, what car is it from?
Cheers Steve
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: andy harwood on Monday,November 28, 2016, 04:45:28 PM
The zetec I bought at the salvage yard came from a Ford focus, and has the same type exhaust manifold.
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: shortjedi on Tuesday,November 29, 2016, 08:01:08 AM
Hmm. Wonder if it's a US market Focus. Nothing like the UK one I have.
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: andy harwood on Tuesday,November 29, 2016, 08:27:52 AM
I *think* Joe's manifold is from a earlier silvertop zetec. Later manifolds look like yours(and mine). *Think* is the key word here.
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: RoddyMac on Tuesday,November 29, 2016, 09:10:49 AM
Do a google or Fleabay search for Zetec turbo exhaust manifolds.  The aftermarket ones don't seem to be that pricey, or you could do what I did and use the stock manifold, carve off the primaries, purchase mandrel bends and weld up a custom header.
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: shortjedi on Tuesday,November 29, 2016, 01:13:54 PM
I was looking at the turbo manifolds certainly a possibility. Also been looking at the mandrel bends, I don't really have the welding skills. Might be fun to try though.
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: BDA on Tuesday,November 29, 2016, 02:59:07 PM
Earlier I posted a link to another thread where I posted these pictures of a friend's ztech headers. They look very nice to me. In case you missed them, they were made in England from measurements they asked for. I would assume they kept those measurements and could make another set pretty quickly and economically. If you're interested, I can point you to my friend who I'm sure will be glad to hook you up with the shop who made them.
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: shortjedi on Tuesday,November 29, 2016, 03:10:49 PM
Yes I saw the photos, great looking pipes. Not sure they would clear a boot box though?
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: HealeyBN7 on Tuesday,November 29, 2016, 08:03:06 PM
Yes I saw the photos, great looking pipes. Not sure they would clear a boot box though?

I think those would clear. They don't look any bigger then the headers I made and I am able to use the box.  I did have to take a little off the bottom side to clear the bigger muffler.

http://www.vintagemotoring.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1534&start=75

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/6OxIQ7yHCNYmrNFBFlKeeBxJZXRlGcH_cb2GoEmZqO2yQ278_S1B4mspEsyAyqWbAbnismoCNYjleA=w1366-h768-no)

Dean

Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: BDA on Tuesday,November 29, 2016, 08:15:30 PM
I think Dean is right. I emailed my buddy and he thinks his will fit with the boot box. He'll measure tomorrow and let me know. I also asked him to let me know who made them so if the tray will fit with them, hopefully, I'll be able to provide a source for them.
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: shortjedi on Wednesday,November 30, 2016, 01:28:52 AM
That would be great.  I  do love the retro bda cam cover with that manifold. More shiny bits....
I'll post some engine bay shots tomorrow.
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: lotusfanatic on Wednesday,November 30, 2016, 03:12:28 AM
Yes I saw the photos, great looking pipes. Not sure they would clear a boot box though?

I think those would clear. They don't look any bigger then the headers I made and I am able to use the box.  I did have to take a little off the bottom side to clear the bigger muffler.

http://www.vintagemotoring.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1534&start=75

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/6OxIQ7yHCNYmrNFBFlKeeBxJZXRlGcH_cb2GoEmZqO2yQ278_S1B4mspEsyAyqWbAbnismoCNYjleA=w1366-h768-no)

Dean

this has to be one of my favourite photographs!

stunning car!
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: BDA on Wednesday,November 30, 2016, 11:22:55 AM
I heard from my buddy. He thinks he'll have to make some modifications to boot box. He says he may have to cut out a little in the front and a bit of the bottom, too. He said he may raise the whole bottom a little bit because he has the muffler under the box.

He got them from Dunnell Engines in the UK. Their phone number is 011-44-1449-677726 (that's probably for calling from the US). Ask for Paul Dunnell. As I assumed, he can make another copy quickly and economically since he already has all the measurements and drawings. If Dean can get away without modifying his boot tray with his design, I suspect you could too and there may be some small changes to this design that would allow using an unmodified boot tray.
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: BDA on Wednesday,November 30, 2016, 08:09:02 PM
My buddy sent me some pictures of his header situation. As you can see, there seems to be very minor interference with the boot box and that might be able to be reduced or eliminated if they were a little closer to the alternator lug on the bell housing.
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: shortjedi on Thursday,December 01, 2016, 12:59:26 AM
That looks pretty good, much appreciated a big thankyou. I know of Dunnell, great reputation for building zetec engines. I'll give them a call.
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: shortjedi on Thursday,December 01, 2016, 05:09:32 AM
A couple of engine bay shots.
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: BDA on Thursday,December 01, 2016, 05:12:25 AM
Very nice!
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: shortjedi on Thursday,December 01, 2016, 05:22:33 AM
Just spoken to dunnell. Turns out I have one of their old westfield engines. Looking about £600 mark for one of their manifolds. So that's another bit sorted. Just need to find the money.
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: BDA on Thursday,December 01, 2016, 05:30:52 AM
That seems like a reasonable price for something that pretty!
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: andy harwood on Thursday,December 01, 2016, 07:32:24 AM
Your car is looking great! The transmission mount looks massive compared with the Lotus mount. The coolant fill, attached to the engine, is this a Dunnell part?
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: shortjedi on Thursday,December 01, 2016, 07:41:36 AM
From what I can remember the thermostat housing came from SpyderCars as did the transmission mounting.  They do a zetec conversion for europa's much like their +2 elans.
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: shortjedi on Thursday,December 01, 2016, 07:47:05 AM
It may have been burton power.  For the thermostat housing
Title: Re: Zetec exhaust manifold option?
Post by: andy harwood on Thursday,December 01, 2016, 04:33:31 PM
Thanks! I'll do some looking.