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Offline Richard48Y

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Re: Is this bad?
« Reply #15 on: Saturday,January 07, 2023, 01:25:30 PM »
The necessary drawing is there.
Something to study tonight.
I would have to do several for it to make sense.

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Re: Is this bad?
« Reply #16 on: Saturday,January 07, 2023, 03:53:17 PM »
The T-section on a TwinCam is different than the earlier cars (not sure what you have)...make sure you have the appropriate drawing.
The more I do the more I find I need to do....

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Re: Is this bad?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday,January 07, 2023, 04:10:11 PM »
Looked again.
Drawing do not say which version they are for and I am unsure of the difference.
Should be able to compare to my S2 to see if they match.

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Re: Is this bad?
« Reply #18 on: Saturday,January 07, 2023, 04:56:46 PM »
The TC frame is flat across the entire width of the ‘T.’ The S2 has “ears” that bend up at the ends of the ‘T.’

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Re: Is this bad?
« Reply #19 on: Saturday,January 07, 2023, 05:29:51 PM »
Good to know, so it seems the drawings are for the S2.
I do not own metal brakes but do have access to them.

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Re: Is this bad?
« Reply #20 on: Saturday,January 07, 2023, 05:35:27 PM »
Hi everybody, thanks very much for the great replies. If anyone knows best what to do, you guys do. To answer some questions, it's a 1971 S2 Federal, and it's been sitting since about 1978 so doesnt run. The current license plate says 1980 but I spoke to the previous owner and they said that when they bought it in 1980 it already didn't run and was sitting for years.
  So in response to the replies, I have no problem with removing the body but the problem is that I have no garage, and my driveway is dirt that turns into a swamp during the spring ice thaw. Also, if I was to work outdoors in the swamp, then I'd either get arrested by code enforcement, or hit with the frying pan by the wife.
  So that brings the car to a fork in the road. I've always wanted a Europa project, but was hoping for a project that may need an engine rebuild and maybe some minor body or interior work, not a complete breakdown and rebuild. If thats the case then it may be cheaper to just buy another project Europa that has a better frame, and then sell this one and let someone fix it who has the facilities to do the major work.
   Every year I buy a new classic project car (last year's car was a very cool rare Porsche 924 Championship Edition) and fix it up with the hope of having it street legal by the spring time, but this project would take well longer than three months from start to finish, even if I had a garage.
  So in the end, I may sell this Europa and look to find another Europa project that doesn't need as much work. The nice thing about this car is although its in poor condition in/out, I was attracted to it because it's about 98% original and complete (missing the intake and exhaust, and has an aftermarket radio)..

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Re: Is this bad?
« Reply #21 on: Saturday,January 07, 2023, 06:07:32 PM »
pictures..

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Re: Is this bad?
« Reply #22 on: Saturday,January 07, 2023, 06:12:45 PM »
I let some cars I should have kept go as I had no place to work on them without a long drive.
Fixed that with a large "Tent" that did not require any county approvals as it is "Personal property" and "Portable" rather than "Real property".
If you have space for even a small shop it would make life simpler.

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Re: Is this bad?
« Reply #23 on: Saturday,January 07, 2023, 06:37:40 PM »
pictures..

Well..can't get any worse than what it is right now, that's one thing.  If I had the room, we'd be talking (right now, have 2 garages in 2 different states 250 miles apart)...but She Who Must Be Obeyed would have a coniption if I took over her garage (again) with another Lotus project...and my other garage is filled with my Twin Cam renovation.  Sigh.  So many Europas...so little time (or space!).  Really need to build a 4 stall garage with an apartment over it, a lift, and plumbed for air tools.  A paint booth would be nice too...one can dream, right?
 
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Re: Is this bad?
« Reply #24 on: Sunday,January 08, 2023, 03:29:35 PM »
What about this one on Hemmings?
Needs stuff, but looks like plenty of good there, not that I've done any serious evaluation.
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/listing/1972-lotus-europa-sarasota-fl-2651068

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Re: Is this bad?
« Reply #25 on: Sunday,January 08, 2023, 07:04:01 PM »
That one on Hemmings looks like a good deal for $5k.

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Re: Is this bad?
« Reply #26 on: Monday,January 09, 2023, 09:51:07 AM »
Tom, this replay from Spydercars may be an answer as it lets you get on with other task while waiting and lets you complete the car you already have.

"Yes, we could manufacture and supply a front suspension bulkhead.
These are the later spec where the damper mounts between the front wishbone spindle bushes.
The cost would be £1000 plus carriage.
You would also need 4 x wishbone spindles @£17.55 each.
 
Lead time would be around 4 weeks from receipt of £500 deposit".

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Re: Is this bad?
« Reply #27 on: Monday,January 09, 2023, 04:16:05 PM »
It looks like $1200 American dollars.. I thought I saw complete used frames out there for less.. If I remember, someone in Washington state had one for $800..