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Title: Europa brakes
Post by: brucelotus26r on Friday,March 09, 2018, 11:03:25 AM
All new and ready to go plus new .70 master cylinder and lines to remove boosters
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Post by: BDA on Friday,March 09, 2018, 11:12:39 AM
Looks nice! Enjoy!
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Post by: EuropatcSPECIAL on Friday,March 09, 2018, 12:54:49 PM
Good Luck
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Post by: Grumblebuns on Friday,March 09, 2018, 02:44:30 PM
Curious to see your thoughts on the TRW? brake pads. What master cylinder are you using?
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Post by: Certified Lotus on Friday,March 09, 2018, 05:30:50 PM
I like those front rotors Bruce!
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Post by: brucelotus26r on Saturday,March 10, 2018, 07:12:33 PM
A .70 bore for the 79/80 Triumph Spitfire.
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Post by: JNS on Tuesday,March 13, 2018, 01:01:41 PM
Thinking of doing this myself. Would love to know how much improvement they make.
 Has anyone else done this, and can you recommend it?
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Post by: surfguitar58 on Tuesday,March 13, 2018, 07:38:49 PM
A .70 bore for the 79/80 Triumph Spitfire.

It that a tandem MC?
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Post by: jbcollier on Tuesday,March 13, 2018, 09:41:15 PM
Yes.
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Post by: surfguitar58 on Wednesday,March 14, 2018, 07:51:10 AM
Yes.
Is that a direct bolt-up swap for a Fed TCS? And if so, what is the part number?
Tom
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Post by: Grumblebuns on Wednesday,March 14, 2018, 09:50:21 AM
It's as closest to a direct bolt up for an alternate M/C than any other. You have to make up jumpers to connect the stock lines to the opposite side of the Spitfire M/C. Unlike the S2, the brake lines from the M/C is continuous to the rear of the PDWV so it's more complicated to re-run new lines. Just make sure you get the small cap Spitfire M/C which has the 0.70" bore. All British car parts suppliers should have them in stock.
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Post by: BDA on Wednesday,March 14, 2018, 10:10:11 AM
Great information, Joji!
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Post by: surfguitar58 on Wednesday,March 14, 2018, 10:46:44 AM
Thanks Joji! Looks very doable. IIRC the stock MC is .85 inch bore. (?) So with a .70 bore I could expect a 32% reduction in pedal force and a corresponding 32% increase in pedal travel. That would be a welcome change to my boosterless TCS.
Tom
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Post by: dakazman on Wednesday,March 14, 2018, 11:18:18 AM
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Re: Europa brakes
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Post by: BDA on Wednesday,March 14, 2018, 11:49:40 AM
Good eye, dakazman!

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Title: Re: Europa brakes
Post by: Grumblebuns on Wednesday,March 14, 2018, 12:19:25 PM
Thinking of doing this myself. Would love to know how much improvement they make.
 Has anyone else done this, and can you recommend it?

If the boosters have failed on your TCS, you know what terror is when attempting to brake hard for an unexpected stop. A smaller bore M/C makes a huge difference in braking. I had the Nissan F10 M/C installed by the PO on my TCS (now sold)and it was outstanding in braking feel and stopping power. The Spitfire M/C should be similar with slightly longer pedal travel, also:

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Title: Re: Europa brakes
Post by: brucelotus26r on Tuesday,March 20, 2018, 03:35:58 PM
Another bridge crossed. Sunday I took my Eupora out for a test drive after rebuilding to rear suspension installing all new brakes new Spax shocks a .70 brake master and new lines to remove booster.
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Post by: Grumblebuns on Tuesday,March 20, 2018, 03:44:59 PM
Congratulations  :beerchug: What were your impressions of the car during the drive?

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Post by: dakazman on Tuesday,March 20, 2018, 05:00:42 PM
Will that mc work with an S2?
Dakazman
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Post by: Certified Lotus on Tuesday,March 20, 2018, 05:34:52 PM
Congrats Bruce. Can’t wait to drive your Europa again to experience the difference.
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Post by: BDA on Tuesday,March 20, 2018, 07:12:00 PM
Congratulations Bruce! I'm sure it lived up to your expectations!
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Post by: jbcollier on Tuesday,March 20, 2018, 07:12:54 PM
That one might have metric fittings.
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Post by: dakazman on Wednesday,March 21, 2018, 04:57:45 AM
Thanks JB , the reason is there is a s2 girling tandem brake cylinder for sale on eBay, however somewhat pricy....I read other articles on other mc that have been installed but just want to consider other options.
Thanks Bruce for posting.
Dave
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Post by: jbcollier on Wednesday,March 21, 2018, 06:06:26 AM
The original cylinder will have the outlets facing the right way and simply bolt up to the lines you already have.  The outlets on this cylinder face the other way so you will have to make up extensions, or new lines to suit.  All the fittings, metric and imperial, are readily available from British parts suppliers.
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Post by: Grumblebuns on Wednesday,March 21, 2018, 06:12:15 AM
Will that mc work with an S2?
Dakazman

That small cap Spitfire M/C is the one I used for my article. The outlet ports are metric threads. For the S2, it's simple enough to make up two new lines to run from the M/C to the three way unions. .
Title: Re: Europa brakes
Post by: brucelotus26r on Wednesday,March 21, 2018, 08:33:53 AM
I think it will work will on any Europa you will have to make some new lines.
I have a good pedal and the brakes work very good.
I would like to have tires with more grip as my new Kumho TA11 leave something more to desired ?
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Post by: brucelotus26r on Thursday,March 22, 2018, 03:50:58 PM
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