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Title: 54/1451 2GR swap
Post by: Clifton on Wednesday,April 29, 2015, 03:01:45 PM
I've edited this post to include the engine swap I am also doing. I had another thread but I will just continue to post everything on here.
Engine is a Toyota 2GR (3.5 V6), same as in the Lotus Evora.

I've been working on a new radiator/condenser set up and mounting a Vintage Air evap. Radiator and electric fans are from a Celica. I finally got the evap bolted in and then decided to make a new dash. I don't really want to but it will look better and  I can have 2 center vents instead of one.

Title: Re: 54/1451
Post by: BDA on Wednesday,April 29, 2015, 05:23:05 PM
That looks really interesting! I hope it all comes together for you!

If you'd consider buying a good dash rather than making one, I'd recommend Prestige Autowood (http://www.prestigeautowood.com/). He makes beautiful dashes with a choice of several different woods. He finishes both the front and back, as well as the edges of the holes to protect it against moisture, he includes all the lettering, AND he will do custom designs. The quality is really top notch. Maybe you can get an idea of the kind of work he does from the attached picture.

He made my dash which includes a glovebox door and an extra hole for a gauge but what's more interesting is that he was thinking about making an instrument binnacle from wood. That didn't turn out to be practical but his willingness to do something totally different impressed me. I'm sure he would be willing to work with you.  but the quality of the dash impressed me more.
Title: Re: 54/1451
Post by: jbcollier on Wednesday,April 29, 2015, 07:32:06 PM
That's a very big condenser!  The Europa cabin is very small.
Title: Re: 54/1451
Post by: Clifton on Thursday,April 30, 2015, 04:03:19 PM
That's a very big condenser!  The Europa cabin is very small.

True but I'm In Phoenix. I don't think ac over kill here is possible between June through September. I have a regular cab Nissan pickup that takes atleast 20 minutes to cool down when it's over 110*, actually it never really gets cool, just tolerable. The condenser is actually a little smaller than the radiator. The size worked out good for mounting too.

BDA, Thanks for the link. I think I am just going to cover mine with vinyl and try a single center with two side vents.

 

Title: Re: 54/1451
Post by: Clifton on Wednesday,May 27, 2015, 05:54:41 PM
I finally finished the dash. I used 3/8 Birch. I also deleted the defrost fronts before I wrapped the dash. It also makes the top look much cleaner. I wrapped every thing with vinyl. I made a new lower bump pad from wood and covered it in foam fist to give it some cushion.
Title: Re: 54/1451
Post by: Clifton on Wednesday,May 27, 2015, 06:01:44 PM
Pics
Title: Re: 54/1451
Post by: Clifton on Wednesday,May 27, 2015, 06:10:01 PM
I installed LED bulbs for the stock gauges to match the Speedhut tach and speedo lights. I used the 9 LED white bulbs. They are a little too long on the amp and oil gauge so I put them in have way.

Title: Re: 54/1451
Post by: BDA on Wednesday,May 27, 2015, 06:41:44 PM
Very nicely done! The dash is sort of E-type esque!  :)

I found the LEDs were a great improvement for the gauges, too. I also replaced all the exterior lights except the headlights. I can't wait for them to be reasonably priced!

How's the A/C coming?

Congratulations on a job well done!
Title: Re: 54/1451
Post by: EuropaTC on Wednesday,May 27, 2015, 09:50:18 PM
That's coming together nicely, the vinyl trim you've done is very neat and looks as if it could have been done by Lotus back in the day.  Great work there, I'll look forward to seeing more as you get along with it.

Brian
Title: Re: 54/1451
Post by: Clifton on Thursday,May 28, 2015, 05:41:48 AM
Thanks guys.
 The a/c is finished under the dash. I mounted the control in the console but I still need to wrap that in vinyl after I figure out how I am doing the shifter boot. I also need to run two hard lines from the foot well bulkhead to the front. That will be all I can do on the a/c until I get the engine in. I talked to the junk yard yesterday. He said they are still looking for a car for me but they have all been 4 cyl in the auctions.
Title: Re: 54/1451
Post by: blasterdad on Thursday,May 28, 2015, 04:41:24 PM
Beautiful work! I like how you got rid of the glove box, looks great!
Title: Re: 54/1451
Post by: jjbunn on Friday,June 12, 2015, 12:52:35 PM
Nice work! Impressive ...
Title: Re: 54/1451 2GR swap
Post by: Clifton on Sunday,October 25, 2015, 09:39:03 AM
If you haven't read the other thread. The engine is a Toyota 2GR plus turbo.  Transmission is a Toyota  E153 w/LSD. I just ordered a 92-93 Camry trans to get a lower final drive out of it, 3.6:1 vs the 4.1 in the E153. I used MR2 hubs and converted them to upper/lower wishbone so I could use Toyota axles.

 It has taken a while to get this far but I finally got the sub frame completed enough to do a test fit today before I finish welding it together. Next, I will hang the turbo, build the exhaust and permanently weld this in.  I still have a long way to go.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5619/22465779565_557cde31ac_c.jpg)


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Title: Re: 54/1451 2GR swap
Post by: BDA on Sunday,October 25, 2015, 10:26:25 AM
That's coming together very nicely! That should be a real screamer! Keep up the great work!  :welder:
Title: Re: 54/1451 2GR swap
Post by: EuropatcSPECIAL on Sunday,October 25, 2015, 04:23:52 PM
wow stunning piece of work  Well done
Title: Re: 54/1451 2GR swap
Post by: Clifton on Sunday,December 13, 2015, 06:24:11 AM
The hard part is done. I finally have the subframe welded to the main frame. I'm working on the brakes next, then a/c lines. I thought I had some pics of the exhaust with turbo mounted but I guess I never took any.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/740/23695482016_1c41a55ed1_c.jpg)
Title: Re: 54/1451 2GR swap
Post by: BDA on Sunday,December 13, 2015, 06:32:32 AM
She's looking great! You do excellent work!  :welder:
Title: Re: 54/1451 2GR swap
Post by: Runningwild on Sunday,December 13, 2015, 01:30:26 PM
Looks great. Any plans to manufacture the sub frame?
Title: Re: 54/1451 2GR swap
Post by: EuropaTC on Sunday,December 13, 2015, 11:11:38 PM
I like the work you've done on that frame. I've often wondered why folks struggle trying to fit some engines in the confines of the original chassis when the logical conclusion is to make the chassis accommodate the engine. (within reason)

I'd imagine that's what Lotus did when GKN47D was built ?

Brian
Title: Re: 54/1451 2GR swap
Post by: Clifton on Monday,December 14, 2015, 04:08:49 AM
No plans in making more, I wouldn't do this again. I also had to make suspension that would fit and it had to be double wishbone as a strut won't fit. That probably took as long as the frame. I would probably go with the 4age or Ztec with turbo.
Title: Re: 54/1451 2GR swap
Post by: Clifton on Friday,January 01, 2016, 12:48:14 PM
I made a dual master cylinder bracket using a Wilwood balance bar. I found a program that calculates brake pedal force, travel, G's.  ect if anyone is interested. http://www.jakelatham.com/radical/info/brake_calculators.shtml#pistondiameters

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Title: Re: 54/1451 2GR swap
Post by: Clifton on Sunday,December 03, 2017, 11:54:24 AM
I finally got it running.  Brakes work great (Wilwood front and rear). Clutch is a bit stiff but works. Most of the body work is done but I need to veil it and flare it. Wheels are temporary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruKQ41ruQpw&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruKQ41ruQpw&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: 54/1451 2GR swap
Post by: Certified Lotus on Sunday,December 03, 2017, 03:29:04 PM
I’m always amazed at the level of projects people take on in their garages. Nicely done, looking forward to seeing the updates!
Title: Re: 54/1451 2GR swap
Post by: BDA on Sunday,December 03, 2017, 03:45:40 PM
That must have felt good! Congratulations!  :beerchug:
I'm looking forward to more updates, pictures and videos!
Title: Re: 54/1451 2GR swap
Post by: Grumblebuns on Monday,December 04, 2017, 07:24:03 AM
Always excited to see long term project finally hit the road. You do excellent work, well, done.
Title: Re: 54/1451 2GR swap
Post by: surfguitar58 on Monday,December 04, 2017, 08:48:43 AM
Sounds incredible, and looks quick! Congratulations!
Title: Re: 54/1451 2GR swap
Post by: Clifton on Monday,December 04, 2017, 12:45:17 PM
The initial run was fun but something wasn't right. I used a Rav4 ecu on a Camry harness.  The ecu wasn't seeing either cam position and I had no power to the Maf. I moved 4 pins on the harness, cleared the codes and went back out with my partner in crime (wife). It is insane how much torque it has even at 1800 rpm. I've had stupid fast cars but nothing with instant torque like this. I'll do a better video soon.
Title: Re: 54/1451 2GR swap
Post by: BDA on Monday,December 04, 2017, 01:11:52 PM
Hats off to you, Clifton! I can't wait to see the next video!
Title: Re: 54/1451 2GR swap
Post by: Clifton on Sunday,December 31, 2017, 12:25:15 PM
Short video of the car in the garage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoFdaCyktG0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoFdaCyktG0)
Title: Re: 54/1451 2GR swap
Post by: BDA on Sunday,December 31, 2017, 02:40:58 PM
It looks like she's coming along!

I've seen "wavey" brake discs similar to yours before - maybe on motorcycles? What is the advantage to that shape disc?

You also have a very small battery. Are you going to use that battery when you're done? Or are you planning to track or auto-X the car thus not needing a bigger battery. I'm also curious your compression ratio.
Title: Re: 54/1451 2GR swap
Post by: Clifton on Sunday,December 31, 2017, 03:05:28 PM
Scalloped rotors are just lighter, they don't work any better.

The battery is staying. It's a Deka etx20. It is 14.5 lbs and has 310 CCA's.  When I first tried to start it and get fuel through everything, I was cranking off and on for a while and it cranked fast every time. I will autox it a few times but my track days are done.  It is just going to be the weekend car.

Compression ratio is 10.8:1
Title: Re: 54/1451 2GR swap
Post by: BDA on Sunday,December 31, 2017, 03:10:32 PM
Thanks Clifton. That looks like an interesting battery to be so small and be able to turn over that motor so reliably! Your car is going to be a monster! I can't wait to see the finished product!