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Title: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: europaloon on Thursday,January 11, 2018, 02:12:49 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lotus-Elan-Toolkit-and-toolroll/122909434644
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: BDA on Thursday,January 11, 2018, 02:32:03 PM
That's a lot of money for a crappy tool kit. You could certainly buy a MUCH nicer one for a lot less, but if you want originality, you may have to pay it.
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: europaloon on Thursday,January 11, 2018, 05:33:21 PM
Charming!

Is that how Hero members should speak of Newbie posts? It may not appeal to you but at least I'm trying to bring a desirable product to the attention of forum members.
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: BDA on Thursday,January 11, 2018, 06:01:54 PM
europaloon, I meant no offence. It sounds like you are the seller - honestly, a thought that didn't occur to me when I wrote my comment. Please consider me clueless rather than cruel or dismissive. I have seen other original toolkits for a similar price (actually, I believe one was more expensive) so for what it is, I don't think it is priced improperly.

I hope there are no hard feelings and I hope you get your price for it.
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: jbcollier on Thursday,January 11, 2018, 08:14:38 PM
Welcome to the forum.  Alas, only the TC/s had those kits.  I guess no one expected the Renault powered ones to break down ;-)

There are a fair number of posts on auctions which are then commented on, often in great detail.  Almost all are not posted by the seller.  The forum's ebay classified section is full of them.  We often talk about condition and value.  Such is the nature of an online list.  Next time use wording such as: "Here's a link to my ebay auction for xxx" and we'll get the hint.

Cheers
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: 4129R on Thursday,January 11, 2018, 09:38:53 PM
If you are putting in a link to something you are advertising that you are selling, it is common practice on this forum to say so.

Similarly most links say they have no connection with the seller.

IMHO that is overpriced, but time will tell. You only need one buyer with lots of £ who wants originality.
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: EuropaTC on Thursday,January 11, 2018, 10:45:31 PM
Alas, only the TC/s had those kits.  I guess no one expected the Renault powered ones to break down ;-)

 :FUNNY:  Now John, that did make me chuckle over the first coffee of the day !   For a modern (ish) comparison, by the mid 90s Lotus had moved away from supplying toolkits with the Elises, but rather ominously they gave you 12 months breakdown cover with the AA so you could get towed home...

As for the toolkit, well it's not my thing but I can see why someone would want to buy one. It's the same with the original jacks, etc, they are worth what the market will bear.
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: jbcollier on Friday,January 12, 2018, 07:27:37 AM
True.  It was generally the first thing removed from the car, and then promptly lost.  I paid $400US for the correct jack, wrench and bag for the early Europas, and then didn't end up using them.  Oh well, it will all be there for the next owner.
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: surfguitar58 on Friday,January 12, 2018, 07:44:06 PM
I bought this kit off eBay for 45 quid (whatever that was in US bucks) a month ago. Had to pay almost the same in shipping from UK because the seller wouldn't take the useless (to me) lead hammer out of the kit!  :WTF: Bought a nice, but not original stitched Naugahyde roll to go with it. For appearance only.
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: BDA on Friday,January 12, 2018, 07:51:12 PM
You would have thought he would have thrown the hammer in the trash for the same price and have you pay less for shipping!

I would guess a lead hammer is the vintage version of a dead blow hammer. I love mine!
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: jbcollier on Friday,January 12, 2018, 07:54:13 PM
Sorry to “lead” this thread astray but lead hammers are great.  I love them.  I bought a mould and make them out discarded wheel weights.
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: surfguitar58 on Friday,January 12, 2018, 07:54:33 PM
I have several dead-blow hammers, shot and urethane. It's nice, and it won't go to waste, but I don't have knocks-offs. Maybe I should buy an old Elan to go with my nice hammer?
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: BDA on Friday,January 12, 2018, 08:12:07 PM
Sorry to “lead” this thread astray but lead hammers are great.  I love them.  I bought a mould and make them out discarded wheel weights.
What do you use your lead hammer for besides knock-offs? And was it really necessary to inflict that pun on us? :FUNNY:

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Maybe I should buy an old Elan to go with my nice hammer?
I like the way you think!
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: EuropaTC on Friday,January 12, 2018, 11:20:50 PM
I bought this kit off eBay for 45 quid (whatever that was in US bucks) a month ago. Had to pay almost the same in shipping from UK because the seller wouldn't take the useless (to me) lead hammer out of the kit!  :WTF: Bought a nice, but not original stitched Naugahyde roll to go with it. For appearance only.

That's a good buy, it could even be the tools supplied with the 60s Elan because mine came with a similar motley collection including a lead hammer for the knock on wheels.  I haven't been to an autojumble for a while but you'd regularly see boxes of old spanners, screwdrivers and the period adjustable spanners for sale at a pound or two. (adjustables obviously more).

Brian
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: jbcollier on Saturday,January 13, 2018, 07:34:25 AM
Lead hammers provide a large amount of force with a soft, malleable face.  I use mine all the time.  Far, far more effective than a dead blow hammer.
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: europaloon on Saturday,January 13, 2018, 01:59:06 PM
I bought this kit off eBay for 45 quid (whatever that was in US bucks) a month ago. Had to pay almost the same in shipping from UK because the seller wouldn't take the useless (to me) lead hammer out of the kit!  :WTF: Bought a nice, but not original stitched Naugahyde roll to go with it. For appearance only.

Unfortunately most of the parts in that toolkit are not original - the screwdriver isn't quite right, the box spanner is too short to be able to be turned. Still Think you did quite well anyway.
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: 4129R on Saturday,January 20, 2018, 09:18:34 AM
There is competition out there !

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LOTUS-SEVEN-ELITE-ELAN-EUROPA-CORTINA-TWIN-CAM-VINTAGE-TOOL-KIT-WHEEL-HAMMER/391963443677?hash=item5b42d781dd:g:EPgAAOSwkV5aX3wl
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: BDA on Saturday,January 20, 2018, 10:56:00 AM
europaloon's kit is a much better deal!
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: 4129R on Saturday,January 20, 2018, 01:47:18 PM
europaloon's kit is a much better deal!

But the one 1412 is selling is in much better condition nice and shiny.
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: andy harwood on Saturday,January 20, 2018, 05:30:17 PM
Am I reading that the tool kit is a bit over $1000.00?
If so, I got new items to be on the lookout for at fleamarkets
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: EuropaTC on Saturday,January 20, 2018, 11:13:27 PM
Am I reading that the tool kit is a bit over $1000.00?
If so, I got new items to be on the lookout for at fleamarkets

Yep, you've got it right, just over $1000 for a set of tools that most likely the owner will never use, they'll just leave them lying by the side of the car or in an open boot (trunk to you guys  :)  ) at shows.   I suspect there's a steady business for me to pop along to Newark (big local autojumble) every month and then get listing on Ebay.
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: BDA on Sunday,January 21, 2018, 06:03:51 AM
Ther Probably is, Brian. I sold a lot more of my old Lotus bits than I ever thought possible!
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: europaloon on Sunday,January 21, 2018, 10:18:41 AM
The toolkit listed at £750 isn't even correct - there at least 2 wrong items in it!

My kit is in as found condition but it wouldn't take half an hour to smarten them up with a wire brush and a rattle can. The trouble with doing that is some people like the as is 'patinated' look and its difficult to put it back to that.

Should anyone want to make an offer for my kit please PM.
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: 3929R on Tuesday,July 03, 2018, 12:25:45 PM
Thanks to the above posts I've learned two things. I did indeed find the original tool kit to my TCS in Grandpa's garage. Unfortunately it is missing the pliers and perhaps the 2BA 4BA spanner. Out and back it's nearly a 20 hour rode trip to go look for them. :(
Title: Re: Toolkit anyone?
Post by: 2766R on Wednesday,September 19, 2018, 05:36:31 AM
Spotted this one on eBay recently:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Lotus-Tool-Kit-Elan-Europa-Seven-7-Elite-Cortina/173533641551?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

I always think these seam overpriced until I spotted this on BAT:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/original-ferrari-tool-kit-early-daytona-365-gtb4/

I guess if one owns a 365 GTB4, one has deep pockets, chump change!