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Title: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Tuesday,June 06, 2017, 12:37:15 PM
Hello everyone,
    Greetings from Florida. It looks rough but a lot of the parts are body parts are now  near perfect.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Saturday,August 19, 2017, 09:07:15 AM
Out for a washing, and serious reorganizing.
Post above should have said, parts now near perfect.

  Remembering why it's so much fun working with fiberglass in 100+ degree heat.
Later😀
 Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: BDA on Saturday,August 19, 2017, 11:13:22 AM
You can't fool me! You're kidding us about all the fun of working on fiberglass in the heat! ;)


I believe that's what air conditioning is for!


Speaking of A/C, are you planning on having it in the Europa?
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: andy harwood on Saturday,August 19, 2017, 11:41:55 AM
Looks great.
Fl. and no AC?
I'm with BDA, AC is nice!
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: BDA on Saturday,August 19, 2017, 12:08:33 PM
I wish I had it! When I built my car I hadn't heard of electric compressors (if they existed) and there was no convenient place to drive one. Then, I'm not sure where I'd put the condenser and evaporator.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: TCS4605R on Saturday,August 19, 2017, 03:14:23 PM
Does anyone know the voltage used in electric refrigerant compressors?  In checking with the Chevy Volt, it looks like some 200 volts!

Tom
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: Bodzer on Sunday,August 20, 2017, 01:06:37 AM
The Tecumseh masterflux Sierra was popular a few years ago for diy electric vehicles. It can work off 12Volts.

I hope that helps.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: andy harwood on Sunday,August 20, 2017, 08:29:40 AM
some info on here
https://www.seanhylandmotorsport.com/blog/12-v-air-conditioning-compressor-how-can-you-decide-if-one-is-right-for-you/
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: jbcollier on Sunday,August 20, 2017, 08:55:20 AM
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/m20ProductDisplayView?catalogId=10002&langId=-1&productId=3170124&storeId=10001

Please note the current draw.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: Serge on Sunday,August 20, 2017, 09:25:36 AM
There is a company in the UK that developed an electric air conditioning kit for classic 911s, but they do sell the parts seperatly.

http://classicretrofit.com/products/electric-air-conditioning/
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Monday,August 21, 2017, 03:33:27 PM
Serge

BIG FAN ,

Love your videos,

   My ac system will probably be a container fill with ice and a fan blowing air into passenger compartment.

Lol


Drove my pickup without air for several years , two windows open at 70 mph will keep you comfortable. I also worked on aircraft no air on hot concrete for years so ac while driving this Europa will be added in.
Your friend,
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: andy harwood on Monday,August 21, 2017, 05:20:43 PM
(I was referring to AC for the shop)   :beerchug:
Enjoy!
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: jbcollier on Monday,August 21, 2017, 08:13:28 PM
£1800 for the compressor and controller alone.  That's not cheap.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Tuesday,August 22, 2017, 06:05:43 PM
Andy

   Yes I understand, Florida is heat and humidity. I have fans in shop.
I work according to the weather ,painting is iffy and at best requires
Test pieces, weather reports for dry air and a lot of experience and luck. October thru march are perfect.
   I like that post went a little off topic but down the road it will be addressed. I met an 82 year
owner of a Europa from Vegas that said driving his car is limited because of the heat.


Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Saturday,August 26, 2017, 03:46:00 PM
Fiberglass work coming along on the last of problem areas wheel wells and a complete firewall..
Slow day on Europa but I helped complete a 6'x2' oval Tiki head.
Ok don't laugh but a friend of ours has a son who can twirl fire like you would believe.
So my daughter carved it an sent from t back to them to coat an then have it painted by her . We may also add some dry ice tubing . Well I'll try to post some pic but that was my week .
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Friday,September 08, 2017, 04:40:15 PM
Busy week on tiki heads and dealing with hurricane prep.
These have been sealed and painted. A little off topic but
Just life.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: BDA on Friday,September 08, 2017, 04:45:55 PM
Stay safe, dakazman. Irma is going to be one nasty bitch! At least she's weakened a little. Where in Florida do you live?
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: andy harwood on Friday,September 08, 2017, 05:49:49 PM
Dak - stay safe down there! And those tiki heads are the bomb! what are they constructed of? Your daughter carved them? Great work!!!
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Saturday,September 09, 2017, 04:10:50 AM
On the east central part of state just south of cape canaveral.

  Daughter drew them and painted, I carved the styrofoam with a hot knife
Sanders, files. Then they were hot sealed. Daughter Still painting second and having fun
Doing it.

Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: andy harwood on Saturday,September 09, 2017, 05:41:33 AM
They look great!
I was wondering if Styrofoam. Family business was florist & greenhouses, so where I grew up. Always carving something out of it. Styrofoam is a good medium to work in.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Sunday,September 17, 2017, 06:25:34 PM
After waiting a week or so I received the wrong inner bearings for the front hubs.
Does anyone have the correct part number ?
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: jbcollier on Sunday,September 17, 2017, 09:01:39 PM
Same as a Triumph Spitfire and TR6.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: Bodzer on Monday,September 18, 2017, 02:16:08 AM
I think it's this:

Inner bearing race 07100S
Inner bearing journal 07210X
Outer bearing race 03062
Outer bearing journal 03162

Triumph Herald and Spitfire 1959-1974

I hope you're ok after Irma.

Regards,

Pete
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: andy harwood on Monday,September 18, 2017, 06:58:29 AM
Don't know if you have this, a Golden Gate Lotus
parts cross reference. It may help sometime.
http://gglotus.org/ggpart/europacr.htm
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Monday,September 18, 2017, 10:28:37 AM
Thanks guys,

Yes neighbors and I all fine but a lot of cleanup.

Purchased two inner bearings off eBay and both no good.
Beck at key 0513843 to small and master pro pta-13 to large. So suspension work moving slowly which gives me more time to fiberglass wheelwell inserts in for the close out panels.

Also received my 821 engine gasket set today so will be getting block crank liners to machinist.

Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: andy harwood on Monday,September 18, 2017, 10:41:50 AM
That is a lot of cleanup piled up!
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Monday,September 18, 2017, 02:16:44 PM
There not much left for the next one to take down.
Raining again , just when it looked like we were going to dry out.
Not like flooding but mosquitoes are going to be killer..

Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Tuesday,September 26, 2017, 05:48:51 PM
Thanks JB and Bodzer, received two sets of bearing kits , complete with dust seal and grease.
And they fit😄. Usually I would get the numbers off the old installed bearings but they spun and ground off all ID.

   Completed all fiberglass repairs in wheel wells . Pictures to come.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: jbcollier on Tuesday,September 26, 2017, 08:06:09 PM
Be careful of the aftermarket felt dust seals.  They are often too thick and don't allow the bearings to seat.  All the felt does is hold grease to prevent dust from getting in.  I usually just reuse the old felt (well greased).
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: Bodzer on Tuesday,September 26, 2017, 11:53:50 PM
I got a bearing set from a reputable supplier and found one on the bearings was the wrong size. I was reading the Dave Bean catalogue and they have a Nylos seal set.  Perhaps they are still in a state of flux after Dave's recent passing. Good luck.

Pete
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Wednesday,September 27, 2017, 06:07:00 AM
 They were from Moss motors , spitfire suspension page.
I will keep the felt caution in mind during reassembly.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: RoddyMac on Wednesday,September 27, 2017, 07:04:13 AM
If you ordered the bearing kit from Moss, as I recently did, the seals that are supplied are TR6 not Spitfire/Lotus bits.  The seals that Moss sells (separately) for the Spitfire are garbage anyway.  The OD of the steel retaining ring is way to big, I ran into the same issue about 10 years ago when I was selling parts.  It looks like Moss didn't want to listen to the issues.   I did pick up a pair of seals from Rimmer Brother when I was in Lincoln last month.  Their seals are better, as they do fit the hub, but they only have about a half thou interference fit. 
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Monday,April 29, 2019, 05:22:36 PM
Working on hanging parts on the frame again, digging out parts that have been bagged for some time.
It feels good, a little bit like Christmas. Working on hub bearings and proper orientation on the felt washer . Felt mounted inward, so that the washer pressure against the bearing race keeps it sealed.
The fit from moss motors seems perfect, maybe they listened.
 Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: BDA on Monday,April 29, 2019, 05:28:25 PM
All right, D'man!!! Putting parts on the frame is a great feeling after having them bagged up for so long! Congratulations!!! Keep us posted!
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: jbcollier on Monday,April 29, 2019, 05:41:21 PM
The felt is too thick.  It will prevent the bearing from seating home.

Simple test.  Mount the hub without the felt and see where the retaining nut goes to.  Now fit the felt.  It should go just as far with no added friction.

Once they felt is sized correctly, remember to impregnate it with grease.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: Certified Lotus on Monday,April 29, 2019, 06:45:44 PM
JB is correct (as usual). Cut the felt in half with a razor blade.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Monday,April 29, 2019, 07:16:19 PM
Thanks guys,
That’s exactly what I was thinking about doing . I’m glad you all posted the correct course of action so  fast. 
  I feel that I’m running in 10 directions at once and adding small items to the shopping list, research list and general placement of items that the body holes were repaired. Example, the gas pedal bracket
However I can see the appropriate from the underside unpainted glass. I found 3 of 4 of the windshield ,aluminum or stainless corner trim,  so I’ll fabricate that.
  Lastly, getting the engine builds going.

Oh , and almost finished painting house for the first time in 25 years. The color was in the stucco.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Tuesday,April 30, 2019, 06:33:30 PM
Opened the kit for the left side and started laughing.. I think Moss needs some quality control.
See pic.
 Cut felt as instructed! Tested as per JB and like certified said, JB is correct. I needed to swap out the brake caliper mount brackets and dust shield the were on the wrong side and inside out.

Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Floridap
Post by: dakazman on Friday,May 03, 2019, 05:05:24 PM
I decided to go with the spitfire small cap brake cylinder and proportion valve. Order the cylinder from moss.
 I had a wasted day working on the shifter, I built two shin plates to glide inside the housing, having an extremely worn out plate. It worked better than the plastic ball. My second plan will be a floating axis bearings mounted inside the mounting plates much like the dave bean mod. Missed the final pics but you’ll get it.
  Another fact that I omitted was that my build had a 5” booster that I found a nice size hole caused by rust.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: BDA on Friday,May 03, 2019, 06:28:05 PM
Could you use the TC spherical bearing and mount? I think r.d. sells all those parts.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: jbcollier on Friday,May 03, 2019, 06:39:31 PM
Spitfires don't use a proportioning valve.  The valve on a Spitfire/TR6/MGB is a pressure differential valve and all it does is trigger a switch if one brake circuit fails.  Trust me, you don't need a light to tell you one half of the brake system is gone.  Your brake pedal will tell you that.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: Certified Lotus on Friday,May 03, 2019, 08:31:05 PM
I’ve only driven a couple of Europa’s (including my own) for a short period of time. The shifting experience in each was amazingly poor. Almost as if the shift rod wasn’t connected to the transaxle. Everything I have read and heard about says one thing. It’s a design that is difficult to make work effectively even when all the parts are new. ANY worn parts only make the shifter gear location worse. I took the advise and bought all new parts (except for the two large shift tubes) for the shift mechanism from the shifter rod to the transaxle gear selector rod.

RD’s plate with spherical bearing that the shift rod sits in is well designed as is the balance of the restoration parts. I would bite the bullet and spend some $$$ here.

If I didn’t have a 352 transaxle I would have installed the cable shift modification. Unfortunately I could not identify an appropriate mod for the 352.

As JB indicated, I removed the pressure differential valve completely (as well as the brake boosters). I don’t need an idiot light to tell me the brakes are wearing. Removing the valve eliminates a number of brake lines you no longer need.  Colin would approve adding lightness.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Saturday,May 04, 2019, 10:47:31 AM
Again Thanks for all the information 😀👍 Going to bite the bullet again.!
  It looks like the brake booster that came in a basket of parts inside the car when I purchased it don’t belong to this car. Studs to long for bracket.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: BDA on Saturday,May 04, 2019, 11:29:58 AM
I am not the S2 guy but I don't think I've ever seen a brake booster fitted to the M/C on a Europa. A quick look at the S2 parts manual shows a remote mounted booster (mounted in the engine compartment?). There were S2s with and without brake boosters. I wonder if yours was one without and the PO was attempting to upgrade to boosters...

As I say, I'm not the S2 guy but until one comes along and confirms my thoughts or your parts, you might look to see if you also have the parts listed in S2 manual (http://lotus-europa.com/manuals/s2parts/j/index.htm).
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Saturday,May 04, 2019, 11:57:49 AM
Thanks BDA, even when you look At the manual my MC bracket doesn’t have the vertical mount holes.
I even tried to retrieve the part number off the data plate to see what effectivity it has to no avail.
   There was also a huge hole cut-out in the fiberglass! That was repaired but I thought is was how he removed it from the car. The linkage bracket is just held on right now with one bolt so I’ll keep you posted.
Dakazman

Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: Sandyman on Saturday,May 04, 2019, 03:39:54 PM
David, is your S2 a federal? I see you have a twin reservoir master cylinder. do you know if it is the same as a twink MC? I am switching to a twin reservoir using a twink MC. (when my Spyder chassis arrives)
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Saturday,May 04, 2019, 04:20:36 PM
I was wrong . the mount was modified previously with a plate welded to the original MC assembly.
I will wait for the spitfire mc to come in to see what needs to be reconstructed. Working on brake line fabrication.
  Sandy, I don’t know anything about this brake booster assembly, it was in a box inside car when I received car. Yes I have an S2 federal.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: jbcollier on Saturday,May 04, 2019, 04:59:43 PM
That is not factory.  That is something a PO cobbled together.  Can’t comment on its effectiveness nor if it is engineered correctly.

In my opinion, you do not need a booster, or boosters, on a Europa.  A simple 0.70 master cylinder, single or dual, gives very, very good brakes.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Thursday,May 09, 2019, 03:48:35 PM
Received my .70 master cylinder from moss motors and started modifying my mount. From the inside I saw the original plate . A 3/16 plate was welded on top. I cut out the original plate on the inside .
Fabricated another plate which I will weld in place.
  I was thinking about welding the mc mount bolts making it have two studs as original did. Then work on the actuating rod.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: Certified Lotus on Thursday,May 09, 2019, 04:05:23 PM
Good to have fabricating skills Dave.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Thursday,May 09, 2019, 04:30:49 PM
Thanks certified, you have plenty of skills, I need to reread your methods of plating parts . Not to mention your knowledge of all things Lotus and  Two / three beautiful specimens completed and running.
Dave
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Friday,May 10, 2019, 05:37:17 PM
Great day,  progress on several fronts. My mc mount, removal of a cylinder head for a bent valve and making a temporary exhaust system for the ElCamino.

I changed the routing of the brake line thru the frame and not under. The rear line will be mounted to the side of frame not bottom as original. Speed bumps would destroy the line mounted here. See pic.

Received a spare rim from way up north. Thanks again.

 
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: JR73 on Thursday,May 16, 2019, 06:51:27 AM
I'm pretty sure that originally the brake pipe did pass through the front box and the rear pipe runs along the side of the backbone at the bottom edge - there used to be bendable metal tabs to hold the pipe in place along the backbone...

I'm sure someone who has been there more recently can confirm/deny this to be the case though?!
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: EuropaTC on Thursday,May 16, 2019, 01:55:56 PM
I'm pretty sure that originally the brake pipe did pass through the front box and the rear pipe runs along the side of the backbone at the bottom edge - there used to be bendable metal tabs to hold the pipe in place along the backbone...
I'll confirm that, on my car the pipes did go internally through the front box & inside the central spine, coming out at the rear Y section. I can't remember how they went from there, I seem to think they went along the inside of the rear N/S leg under the engine mounts to the servo and then back into the central spine for the front caliper feed.

Brian
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Thursday,May 16, 2019, 03:22:17 PM
Thanks guys
 I ran it thru the box instead on under. Will continue the run on the side of frame to protect it.
Purchased another roll of brake line and need to order all new fittings. While am waiting am working on putting the engine back together.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Tuesday,May 21, 2019, 05:39:17 PM
Made some progress on the brake mc mount and fabricated a carriage bolt to fit and rotate inside the mc like the original rod. It is fully adjustable but may need to be shortened. I just need to mount it and test. I decided to us bolts instead on studs.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Thursday,May 23, 2019, 05:31:39 PM
My order from rd came in .
   I ordered the spherical shifter bearing , plates and bushings. What a difference. Easy to install and fit on my shift rod. 

  Finally getting to flaring all new lines and all new fittings, and flex lines only a few months later. I also ordered the rest of the rear drum brake parts needed. I also found the original shoes that are still new.

  I decided to go with the stainless steel door pins and received two sets.
 
  Other roads going down are the proper U50 u-joints  I can’t find my cross reference part numbers list for the NAPA nbr. The ones I pressed out were from 3 different manufacturers. Same for the rear bearings, I had Japanese German and England and American manufacturers installed. Prices range fro $12.95 - $108.00 for the German brand. Anyone have a preference?
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: Certified Lotus on Thursday,May 23, 2019, 07:04:21 PM
Always exciting to get an RD box  :pirate:
You will be glad to have gotten the shifter parts. I can’t make any recommendations on u-joints, mine seemed to be in good shape. 
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: BDA on Thursday,May 23, 2019, 07:11:02 PM
Aren't u-joint standardized? This cross reference (http://www.gglotus.org/ggpart/europacr.htm#rsusp) has a listing for several manufacturers.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: 4129R on Thursday,May 23, 2019, 11:28:14 PM

 I also found the original shoes that are still new.

Beware, they may contain asbestos if they are that old.

I asked Lotus what parts in a Europa contained asbestos. They replied that regrettably their records on that have been lost.

I reckon the exhaust gaskets, maybe the head gasket, the heat shield above the silencer (muffler), the brake pads and the brake shoes, all would have been made containing asbestos.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: jbcollier on Friday,May 24, 2019, 06:25:35 AM
U-joints I have used and worked well:  GKN, Hardy Spicer and SKF.

U-joints junk right out of the the box: GMG
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Friday,May 24, 2019, 06:50:33 AM
Good to know, JB
  I did my vette’s 12 years ago but don’t know what make I put in. There was a lot more room to press out too.
  And idea where that pdf of part numbers are . I just can’t find it.
Dave
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: jbcollier on Friday,May 24, 2019, 11:46:42 AM
It's the same u-joint as used in Triumph Spitfire half-shafts and drive shafts.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: BDA on Friday,May 24, 2019, 12:08:56 PM
Will this help:
R   U-Joints, type U-50   46D6005   Hardy Spicer K5 GB150, Borg Warner 114 514, Neapco 1-300 (TR Spitfire)
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Friday,May 24, 2019, 07:05:38 PM
Yes,  thanks BDA .
Ordering parts have been increased to get thing done.
Dave
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Saturday,May 25, 2019, 04:46:44 AM
Don't know if you have this, a Golden Gate Lotus
parts cross reference. It may help sometime.
http://gglotus.org/ggpart/europacr.htm

Reading over past posts I found it , Thanks Andy.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Monday,May 27, 2019, 06:59:33 PM
Nearly completed all new brake lines but I missed two female connections and the metric connections were o the MC.  I wish I would have taken the advice of some members and purchased another flaring tool. I said to myself, how bad it be. After 2 hours I finally mastered the bubble flare with consistency.
 I watched several videos online that were somewhat useful and used the information provided with the flaring tool I’ve had for decades.
What a mistake! 
  Not that I didn’t finish what I set out to do, I did but my advice to other members buy the new type tool. The old style tool needs to be super tight to achieve the bubble flare. The directions on the tool box gives a dimension to use , however going longer on the length gave a longer bubble look. The chamfering of the line inside and out along with the deburring is paramount. Followed by a good lube on the base of adapter. Extra long tubing to hold the flaring tool and wrench it down is my final tip.
 Dakazman
 
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: Certified Lotus on Monday,May 27, 2019, 08:34:42 PM
Practice makes perfect Dave! Nice work. Question, some of those lines above the chassis look like they will contact the body?
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Tuesday,May 28, 2019, 03:18:37 AM
  The lines under the 1/4 line clamps have 3M Teflon gasket tape wrapped around the line. The trailing arms are touching because the original lines there were longer than necessary so they will be modified when I mount the uprights and brake assembly.  There is a 1/16 clearance.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: BDA on Tuesday,May 28, 2019, 07:05:11 AM
Bending brake lines is an art. I can't relate to your bubble flare woes because I used 37 degree flares but it looks like bubble flares are harder to make. As John Muir said in "How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive: A Manual of Step-by-Step Procedures for the Compleat Idiot", my first car repair/maintenance book, "Perseverance furthers."
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Friday,October 04, 2019, 10:36:16 AM
  Before opening my fuel tank I purchased a gasket first . The tank is in exceptional condition however the sending unit will need to go . R&D only has the tc unit , any ideas on a universal sender for a
2 1/2” opening S2 .
Dakazman

Just checked the DB catalog the s2 sender is NLA. They suggest using the S1 sender with a big ???
Anyone try that?
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: jbcollier on Sunday,October 06, 2019, 12:20:02 PM
Check with Richard at Europa Engineering.  If anyone has a solution, he does.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: BDA on Sunday,October 06, 2019, 01:34:01 PM
I agree with JB that Richard (or now Nick & Dave at Lotus Supplies Ltd.) would likely have a solution but I wouldn't put any faith in Dave Bean's catalog being up to date nor would I refer to their website as it has never been updated. I would give Ken at Dave Bean a call. Given all the S2s in California, I might expect he'll have a solution. If he does, it might be a little more cost efficient. Ken is a great guy and he has A LOT of experience and another good guy to get to know.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Sunday,October 06, 2019, 05:11:52 PM
  Found out a few things about the original sender .
Smith’s Industry UK, TBS1514/001 patent number 941563, the 5 maybe a 3.
After dissembling I found the broken winding . The range is approximately 40 - 280 Ohms.

  Nosingers has a rebuilding service however mine may be unrepairable due to the float arm-is seized.
 
I will call Nick and Dave maybe tomorrow,🤪 babysitting ...I also checking the feasibility of adapting a universal sender arm and use the winding .

Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: BDA on Sunday,October 06, 2019, 05:28:28 PM
My experience with Nisonger's rebuilding service is that it almost cost as much to buy a new gauge than to have it repaired. That was the case when I broke a mechanical temp sender tube anyway. Of course, your sender might be made of unobtanium so the point in this instance may be moot. It might be worth a call to them just to see.

I still think a call to Ken at Dave Bean would be worthwhile. (ok, now I'll shut up)
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Sunday,October 06, 2019, 05:36:22 PM
   No don’t shut up!
I will call ! Maybe Also , R&D can check the ohm range of the S1 sender. I’ll see if they can send a picture so I can cobble the two together.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: BDA on Sunday,October 06, 2019, 06:09:30 PM
I just didn't want to sound like I was a broken record.

That document is pretty interesting. I knew basically how the sender works, but it never occurred to me to mismatch senders with gauges.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Sunday,October 06, 2019, 06:29:45 PM
   Were you able to read it? I was worried about the picture resolution 
It also touchs on the importance and problems that the voltage stabilizer and its role with the gauges.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: BDA on Sunday,October 06, 2019, 06:51:40 PM
I didn't read sthe second two pages but I did read the first. They all seemed very readable. I'll finish reading it when I have time tomorrow.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: jbcollier on Monday,October 07, 2019, 06:37:08 AM
Smiths gauge are also adjustable.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: Certified Lotus on Monday,October 07, 2019, 07:59:54 AM
I sent my Elan S1 fuel gauge and the new fuel tank sending unit to Nisonger to calibrate and match. It still wasn’t 100% accurate after I installed it.  A good friend of mine who restores very expensive sports cars says you only need to worry about the fuel gauge reading at empty. You should always know when your just about to run out of gas. Who cares if the gauge reads full.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Monday,October 07, 2019, 09:50:38 AM
  The reading will definitely work now if the mechanical float arm will move. I need to re-engineer the brass pivot sleeve that the float shaft rotates the contact on the windings . Maybe copy the whole plate . I should be able to find a universal unit that i can adapt onto the plate.
   First  will call the experts Ken at DB. I also need to check the status of the flingers for the rear hubs.I ordered a month ago.

On another note , I need the tool to remove the splined type clutch throwout bearing shaft pins.

Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Monday,October 07, 2019, 03:24:27 PM
  Found the sender available at banks thru their website. I was able to select buy and fill out my address and email information. A agent will contact me. So it’s not a done deal yet! Not impressed with the new lotus supplies limited site. It was my first visit back to the banks engineering.
  Not to many , 0 parts listed for a 336 gearbox under one diagram. Selected another and they can sell me the drain plug. 
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Tuesday,October 08, 2019, 06:09:39 PM
  Good day today just buying parts😀. Seals and gaskets to at least open the gearbox up for inspection and cleaning.
  Plating more parts lead me to reading the manual and ordering a few extra parts for the bell housing. The throw out bearing arm needs to be plated.😀. Researching removing the throw-out bearing and retaining pins. Withdrawal pad it’s proper name requires a special tool . Before making another tool I thought best to ask if anyone knows where to purchase one? A second question is where to purchase a withdrawal pad for an S2.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: jbcollier on Tuesday,October 08, 2019, 07:49:05 PM
"throw out bearing arm" = clutch fork

"throw out bearing" = release bearing

The clutch fork pins are tapered.  Drill holes on the back of the bell housing and drive them out.  Only remove these if you need to.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Thursday,October 10, 2019, 11:08:25 AM
"throw out bearing arm" = clutch fork

"throw out bearing" = release bearing

The clutch fork pins are tapered.  Drill holes on the back of the bell housing and drive them out.  Only remove these if you need to.

Thanks JB, I’ve been reading to many manuals lately. I usually say clutch fork and throw out bearing that I ordered for my corvette. The new one on me was the withdrawal pad.
After talking also with Ken at Dave Bean found out that the bearing isn’t in stock. I did order the pins  that they do have in stock.
It seems strange that this isn’t a routinely changed item with clutch and pressure plate.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: jbcollier on Thursday,October 10, 2019, 02:50:18 PM
You don’t need to remove the clutch fork pins to replace the release bearing.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Thursday,October 10, 2019, 03:12:59 PM
   What 🥴, I made the puller. Is there an easier way other than what’s in the manual?
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: jbcollier on Thursday,October 10, 2019, 06:10:09 PM
You can’t just pivot the clutch fork and remove the release bearing assembly?  Mine is s non-standard fitment (modified 395 + hemi) so I can’t comment directly.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Thursday,October 10, 2019, 06:40:18 PM
JB,
I wish , I had that same though in mind. You can imagine my surprise.

The shaft sleeve that the input shaft goes into and the release bearing rides on is impending the removal. I noticed a big difference in the tc section of the workshop manual. The 16tx book I have with the crossflow it basically falls out. 
   I’ll keep you posted!
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: jbcollier on Thursday,October 10, 2019, 08:23:32 PM
If you tool doesn’t work, as I suspect it may not, simply drill two holes in the back of the bell housing and knock the pins out with a hammer and punch.  Use a proper sized punch, safety glasses and very firm hammer blows.  I would also hold the punch in vice-grips just in case your accuracy is at all like mine...
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: GavinT on Friday,October 11, 2019, 11:24:52 AM
JB,
I wish , I had that same though in mind. You can imagine my surprise.

The shaft sleeve that the input shaft goes into and the release bearing rides on is impending the removal. I noticed a big difference in the tc section of the workshop manual. The 16tx book I have with the crossflow it basically falls out. 
   I’ll keep you posted!
Dakazman

Are you sure, D'man?

I don't know anyone that's had to remove the pins just to change the release bearing.
From memory, you move the bearing carrier towards the end of the input shaft and the clutch fork comes out of the peripheral groove that locates the fork fingers.
You do have to fiddle and help, but it does come.

This is with a 336 box.
Is that what you have?
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Friday,October 11, 2019, 12:53:56 PM
  If the center shaft can be pressed out of housing it would come out, however it looks like that shaft gets pressed out forwards.
  In  the fully depressed position the clutch fork hits the housing  and the bearing still has another 1inch to clear. The tabs are still in grove.

  I have an 336 gearbox
 
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: jbcollier on Friday,October 11, 2019, 05:48:29 PM
Me?  I would trim the housing so the arm can go further.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Friday,October 11, 2019, 07:07:30 PM
   🤔that just might work.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: GavinT on Friday,October 11, 2019, 10:43:30 PM
  In  the fully depressed position the clutch fork hits the housing  and the bearing still has another 1inch to clear. The tabs are still in grove.
Thanks for the memory refresh of your pics, D'man.
You've nearly got it.

Consider the geometry and how the fork and bearing carrier move relative to each other.

As the fork swings forward, the fork fingers rise perpendicular to the bearing carrier. At some point they must come out of their groove.

It isn't clear to me where the fork is hitting the housing, but yeah . . I'd buzz some alloy off with a Dremel or similar.

A couple of other things to be aware of.
The fork fingers wear in operation and form flats and consequently, ridges at each edge of those flats. They can hang up a little.
The groove the fork rides in is fairly snug, so some lubrication will help with the "feel" of how it's going.
Similarly, releasing the large spring on the external lever will help with the "feel", though I don't recall the need to do that.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Saturday,October 12, 2019, 09:55:45 AM
   Still can’t get there from here👎👎.  Stops  at  Lower pic .
 
   The drill came out ...😡. Ten minutes later😁😁
 
  I wrote down the location of the drilled holes from the center like of the top two bolts and the center line of the input shaft. The picture is missing the input shaft hole.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: GavinT on Saturday,October 12, 2019, 06:10:29 PM
Well done, D'man . . whatever it takes.

(although it now occurs to me you secretly wanted to nickel plate that fork)  :FUNNY:
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Saturday,October 12, 2019, 06:47:05 PM
JB ,
Thanks for that suggestion .

Gavin,
That’s probably correct, LOL. 

 Now the fun part finding some parts ,  return spring and maybe a bearing.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: GavinT on Sunday,October 13, 2019, 12:13:51 AM
D'man,

You should start a thread on nickel plating.
I'd be interested in your experiences and expect others would be too.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Sunday,October 13, 2019, 03:37:15 AM
  Gavin,  I’m not a master and still perfecting my timing. Material cleaning and buffing after dipping in the acetate bath.
Check out :
 http://www.lotuseuropa.org/LotusForum/index.php?topic=3284.0

Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: GavinT on Sunday,October 13, 2019, 10:39:22 AM
Thanks, Dave,

I must have missed that one.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Wednesday,October 16, 2019, 10:06:18 AM
    It turned out better than I thought.  Getting the timing and buffing up correct.
I know we won’t see it , but it weighs less😀 and hopefully won’t rust.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: BDA on Wednesday,October 16, 2019, 10:32:45 AM
It's one thing to make the parts you can see shiny but this is turning into an obsession!  :D
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: Dan C 2624R on Wednesday,October 16, 2019, 10:52:26 AM
An obsession it truly is but also one that can be "shared".  I am seriously looking at nickel plating some of my parts as well as I progress through my rusty renovation.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: BDA on Wednesday,October 16, 2019, 11:08:40 AM
A good candidate that I may try my hand at plating are the seat runners.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Wednesday,October 16, 2019, 12:45:49 PM
An obsession it truly is but also one that can be "shared".  I am seriously looking at nickel plating some of my parts as well as I progress through my rusty renovation.

   As Certified Lotus and Serge have been my mentors in getting me started. I watched a video of serge cleaning some parts in vinegar , scrubbing with a wire brush to a decent finish. I used a heavy duty 8” wire wheel to remove rust. Then paint. Later,  Certified Lotus talked about plating and his choice for finishing small parts. So I watched the video below . The Vinegar being common denominator.

     https://youtu.be/G-PtnwtOR24

  I stuck with the nickel only, for best results and I just hope my efforts last. The,  off topic page has a thread on electroplating.


Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: literarymadness on Wednesday,October 16, 2019, 08:40:49 PM
D'man: After seeing your car in person and all the beautiful work you have done.  I am getting excited about your Europa vision.

Madness
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Thursday,October 17, 2019, 04:55:21 PM
  Literarymadness,
     I wish I had the body fully painted.  But seeing the fiberglass cloth bleed thru into the final finish was something I couldn’t look at .  If your vision is Black , Chrome and shinny 😁😁😁👍👍 .
   My wife is still singing around the house. The neighborhood is now asking me, when are you going to be done? 
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: BDA on Thursday,October 17, 2019, 06:03:32 PM
Fiberglass cloth is very difficult to "unprint." I had my car covered within cloth and I was told by the guy who did it that no filler could make the print go away. I suspect that a layer, at least, of gauze would be required to completely smooth it. As it happens, there are still some areas where the cloth is printing on my car. If I had seen it I would have tried a layer of gauze but I didn't see it.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Thursday,October 17, 2019, 06:39:31 PM
   I cut it out completely!
 People, please stop using fabric cloth fiberglass on the exterior panels. Save it for your surf board!

   I hear the veil or gauze is having good results, but I haven’t tested it yet. I still need some work on my firewall maybe I’ll use it there for a test.

Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: BDA on Thursday,October 17, 2019, 06:47:47 PM
Veil or gauze works well. I covered my doors, boot, and bonnet and it came out nice.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Monday,October 21, 2019, 02:15:13 PM
   This is entirely new . Some have used it before with good results.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyoaLrzh0Ho

   BDA, what type did you use?

Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: BDA on Monday,October 21, 2019, 03:28:37 PM
I got mine from r.d. Not about the type but I suppose Ray only has one "type." It's just thin fiberglass mat. You might be able to get it at a fiberglass supply house near you. Just doing a search, I found 3/4 oz/yard veil (or gauze) but I really don't know the weight I used. It might be better to just get it from Ray but asking around never hurt.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Monday,October 21, 2019, 03:44:52 PM
That’s not the right video, somehow it was crossed Up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KayTC3Yl5X4

Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: BDA on Monday,October 21, 2019, 03:51:09 PM
Better! I was wondering why I cared about making fiberglass tubes! I don't know if the veil I used was continuous fibers but I don't think it matters. I think the idea may be to hold some resin son you you can make a smooth surface.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Monday,October 21, 2019, 04:01:20 PM
   They also have a Kevlar veil !  Like I said it’s a new product. I love all their videos.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: gideon on Monday,October 21, 2019, 06:14:22 PM
Glass veil - fine.  Kevlar veil - nein!

Don't ever try to sand into a Kevlar composite.  It goes fuzzy as all the little Kevlar fibre ends stick out of the sanded surface.  The more you sand, the fuzzier it gets.  Yeurghh!

And yes I am speaking from experience.

Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: yellow16TS on Wednesday,November 13, 2019, 02:48:53 AM
Hi Dave, i am trying to work out how to get the throwout bearing off my 336 right now and i realized you are doing the exact same thing! After doing a forum search, your topic came up first haha!
I have a new bearing to fit , but i didnt buy replacement pins :( Im going to try and get the carrier and bearing off some other way.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Wednesday,November 13, 2019, 04:27:45 AM
Hi Dave, i am trying to work out how to get the throwout bearing off my 336 right now and i realized you are doing the exact same thing! After doing a forum search, your topic came up first haha!
I have a new bearing to fit , but i didnt buy replacement pins :( Im going to try and get the carrier and bearing off some other way.

Hi 16,
 The easiest way is what JB mentioned . Drill two small holes it the back of the bell housing to locate the pins. Then enlarge and center. Make sure you have the pins at 90 degree angle viewed from the side. You may need to remove the spring on the housing. Once you do that tap out with a good punch . Mine came out one first blow. They probably could be reinstalled again .  I did buy a new set but I don’t see the need afterward.
  The tool I made probably would have worked however I did not have a proper sleeve .
Dakazman
 
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Tuesday,November 26, 2019, 09:13:38 AM
   I’m in the process of installing the cylinder head on the wedge engine and need to clarify a statement in the manual that say install spacers on the front two head bolts, the problem being I only have one long spacer. There are short and long bolts all have washers, could a long bolt been shorted and a swapped with a short bolt.
  When dissembling I placed my he bolts in a jig so that they would go back the way I took them out. They seem correct , am I reading to much into that statement in the manual?
Dakazman
Ps torque position 8 and 10 10 being a long spacer and 8 a short bolt.

Second ps :got it .
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Tuesday,November 26, 2019, 12:38:02 PM
    Checked my other engine head bolt stand. 10 head bolts 6 short and 4 long. Spacer on #10 torque sequence. Number 9 gets a short bolt.
 I went thru the assembly process and found some hidden gotcha’s. 1 the head studs for location are short and need the t handle extractor that comes with the kit however it has a special thread size to accommodate a stud that should join the two...that don’t not come with the kit. It is not metric or standard. So I slotted the stud . See pic.  Now to proceed.😅
  So I picked up the head and placed it slowly down on the block, the side gauge falls out of its locator position. It needed to be secured in place by some shins. Once again a dry run and success. Removed the head , installed tappets, thank you Galvin! Placed the gaskets down and placed the head perfectly. Installed the bolts and torque the head twice around . After run in final torque.
Dakazman
 
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: BDA on Tuesday,November 26, 2019, 12:55:03 PM
Working with wrenches! Now you're talking! Those Renault motors seem pretty complicated to build!
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: Certified Lotus on Tuesday,November 26, 2019, 01:35:23 PM
It’s so shiny it doesn’t look real.  :FUNNY:
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: 1970EuropaGuy on Tuesday,November 26, 2019, 02:19:02 PM
Looking great! Remember to wear sunglasses during assembly.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Tuesday,November 26, 2019, 02:28:09 PM
Working with wrenches! Now you're talking! Those Renault motors seem pretty complicated to build!

  It feels so good to assemble this, preserving it for future generations . I never thought it would look this good. Pulling parts down that I thought looked good may need some more work.  I need to go shopping and buy some stainless bolts and nuts. This was a busy month , anniversary, birthdays and thanksgiving all have slowed me down.
  The last two sections of the firewall are next, but I will continue to assemble the body.

Certified, in the sun, forget about it...LOL I couldn’t get a good picture.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: Certified Lotus on Tuesday,November 26, 2019, 02:45:05 PM
Dave your going to be like me. After every drive and the engine cools down you’ll be out with a rag wiping the road dust off. But it’s a good thing!
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: jbcollier on Tuesday,November 26, 2019, 07:23:52 PM
Great that it is all finally coming together.

Stainless nuts and bolts need to be used with care.  They have no natural lubricity and the threads gall very easily.  You have to use a copper anti seize on the threads.  The SS bolts and nuts in hardware stores and elsewhere are cheap, no-grade junk.  Buy quality, graded SS nuts and bolts only.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Wednesday,November 27, 2019, 06:27:17 AM
  Thanks JB ,  I’ve been down that road with the stainless bolts at Lowes , pure junk.
 I did find an interesting site but way too expensive and extreme.  Dressupbolts.con  titanium hardware any a variety of colors. I would have to be sponsored by them to use them.
  I started on the rocker arm assembly and noticed that the studs that are used need to be installed with the shorter thread length down. I will also torque the studs into the head first slightly higher than the torque for tightening the assembly. This not in the manual. But if anyone has any opinions let me know. I feel like an autodidact building this.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: jbcollier on Wednesday,November 27, 2019, 06:55:38 AM
Don't go too tight with the studs.  The stud does not have to be tighter than the torque of the nut it holds, especially if it is going into aluminium.  I just snug them down.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Wednesday,November 27, 2019, 08:41:29 AM
  Thanks for your he fast reply. I didn’t have the correct thread count nuts to lock together anyhow. I’ve been searching for awhile, now I’ll just turn by hand. 20 ft pounds seems high for the rocker assembly . But that’s what in the manual.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: Bainford on Wednesday,November 27, 2019, 08:54:40 AM
Don't go too tight with the studs.  The stud does not have to be tighter than the torque of the nut it holds, especially if it is going into aluminium.  I just snug them down.
This :I-agree: DO NOT apply the full specified torque for the nuts when installing the studs. 25% of the specified nut torque will be plenty, but I certainly would not exceed 50% in this application unless otherwise stated in a trusted manual.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: jbcollier on Wednesday,November 27, 2019, 09:51:01 AM
They make 5/16/8mm stud extractors that work well.  failing that, the old vice-grips on the shaft of the stud works as well.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Wednesday,November 27, 2019, 03:51:25 PM
  We got her done but it was a struggle. Still have to adjust the valve clearance after I reposition the stand . It feels like Christmas opening bags of parts . Nickel plating various nuts and bolts , plates ...
Found my best valve cover and installed the gasket. What direction do the retaining nuts (thumbscrews) go ? The gasket doesn’t fit perfectly inside the indentation!

  Other items ,
- Do the front turn indicators lenses get mounted with the screws horizontal or vertical.
- what is the dimension the engine cover hinges from the vent hole edge? This is probably the best way      to locate.

   After unpacking some of my light assemblies...😟 I see some work coming. I thought they looked better 25 years ago.  :FUNNY:

Dakazman


   
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: BDA on Wednesday,November 27, 2019, 07:31:19 PM
Very nice, D'man! That is really pretty!  :beerchug:
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Monday,December 09, 2019, 03:44:14 PM
  Flipped the engine over and and cleared and cleaned all the oil pan bolts . Nickel Plating all the bolts and washers . Yes I was playing around but sneaking away from babysitting with the he wife. 🤣
I went shopping for all new manifold studs but all the auto parts suppliers didn’t have them. The ones I have from 2 engines will just have to do until I order some from R&D .
Dakazman 
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: Certified Lotus on Monday,December 09, 2019, 05:58:40 PM
Man does that engine look good! I’m excited for you to get the car together Dave.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Tuesday,December 24, 2019, 08:39:25 AM
  When Assembling the hub carrier and axle , do we press the inner bearing onto it the axle , then pull the axle into hub? Or bearing into hub first? It would seem the first method is safer as to not cock it.
The manual really doesn’t say much it.
Dakazman
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: Bodzer on Tuesday,December 24, 2019, 11:05:57 PM
Merry Christmas dakazman! Serge did a nice YouTube video on it a few years ago. I found it very helpful during my rebuild. https://youtu.be/4tDs8oNti6A
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: jbcollier on Wednesday,December 25, 2019, 08:37:38 AM
Outer bearing first, spacer, inner bearing, seal, fit to the radius arm, backing plate and then axle.
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Sunday,January 12, 2020, 08:17:46 AM
 While waiting for my machinist to come back from holiday, I thought it would be nice to finish up some  items that parts came in for.
Distributor, awhile back I disassembled, inspected and ordered some parts for my decellier 4267 distributor. I found a complete spare on the web cheap. It turned out to be better than mine. I took it apart an found a few differences, took a lot of pictures and will post after I write up a frame by frame document explaining each. At least I won’t have to change points on the side of the road now , I’ll just swap out the whole unit.
Dakazman

 PS warning:you may need sunglasses.😀😂
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: BDA on Sunday,January 12, 2020, 08:38:55 AM
More shiny stuff! That engine's future is so bright, it's going to need shades!  :)
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Sunday,January 12, 2020, 03:13:14 PM
After this I have all the parts to rebuild the original DGV 32/36 Weber carb.  Buying a new one may be easier but at least I’ll learn a few things . I have a really good overhaul tutorial.
  Hi torque Starter and fuel pump I all that is left before running.
Dakazman 
Title: Re: 0453R Rockledge Florida
Post by: dakazman on Monday,January 13, 2020, 05:09:04 PM
  I did get a single distributor out of the two. I found some parts missing from the manual. I still need to see if they are missing from the parts catalog. I also found a interesting function built into the points bracket. The bracket floats and has a washer below the bracket not in the manual. Giving the points a sort of centering with the contact side . If anyone can explain jump in .
  One of the important items missing from the manual are the plastic insert going into the weights. The other spacer on the weights should rotate on there shafts. My original just had the lower half of the bushing/ insert. If someone has a 3D printer that item would help in any decelleir distributor.
 The lobe spacer has only happened n correct way of going on. Bevel down then washer.

I’m all so glad I was able to disassemble and compare the two units. It made me catch a lot of problems before they started.?
Dakazman